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Thoughts on Cinelli Super Corsa??
"Eurastus" wrote in message ... Many moons ago (like 24 years--back in 1979) when I first started serious road riding as a freshman in high school, one of the guys I rode with quite regularly had a beautiful Cinelli with a brand new Campy Nuovo Record group--he even had a Cinelli saddle. What a bike. I was on a pitiful Schwinn Traveler III and dreamed of the day I could afford such a machine. Well, now I can. I've been looking about for a steel framed replacement for my 15-year-old 7-speed steed and happened into this site: http://www.gvhbikes.com/. They've got a beautiful Cinelli Super Corsa in a color I like and just the right size. I intend to equip it with a full Campy Record 10 triple group. I want to stay with steel. So here's my questions: What is the reputation of Cinelli steel frames? Back in the day, they were considered the very best, but is this still the case? The guy that runs GVH Bikes appears to have had some health problems and his shop is closed indefinitely. Is there another source for the Cinelli Super Corsa I could turn to should I decide to purchase? Anything else you can tell me about the Cinelli Super Corsa? Thanks much... My understanding was that Cinelli was acquired by the Columbus tubing company (love to hear otherwise). I've only seen one Super Corsa less than a couple years old, and I'm saddened to say it didn't really match the finish of the early models. Nowhere near as nice as the work on my Mondonico, which would be my choice for a "traditional Italian lugged frame" that's still fairly modern in its tubing choices and weight. Then again, I still ride my 19 year-old Torelli and Paramount frames too... TC |
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Thoughts on Cinelli Super Corsa??
"F1" wrote in message k.net...
A bit off topic, but why do you want steel? I'm fairly new to biking and just wondering why anyone would want anything BUT a good aluminum or carbon frame, price not withstanding? because the bike in question looks great. (If you're not interested in The Ultimate in Performance--or indeed, as in my case, you are utterly incapable of any Performance whatsoever--than you're looking for the bike you can ride comfortably, know will last forever, and gratifies your eye as much as the rest of your body when you ride. ) (I, however, can't afford nice frames like that, so.) Because the OP might remember the racing heroes of his youth riding similar frames. Because modern frames look too garish.... Because riding is prior to and more imporant than even racing Because...just because. -Luigi |
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Thoughts on Cinelli Super Corsa??
If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @
http://www.eisentraut.com/ If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. Albert has been one of the premier framer builders in America for decades. I, too, like the looks of the older Italian frames and ended up buying a custom Eisentraut a couple years ago. It is a great bike. scott Eurastus wrote: Many moons ago (like 24 years--back in 1979) when I first started serious road riding as a freshman in high school, one of the guys I rode with quite regularly had a beautiful Cinelli with a brand new Campy Nuovo Record group--he even had a Cinelli saddle. What a bike. I was on a pitiful Schwinn Traveler III and dreamed of the day I could afford such a machine. Well, now I can. I've been looking about for a steel framed replacement for my 15-year-old 7-speed steed and happened into this site: http://www.gvhbikes.com/. They've got a beautiful Cinelli Super Corsa in a color I like and just the right size. I intend to equip it with a full Campy Record 10 triple group. I want to stay with steel. So here's my questions: What is the reputation of Cinelli steel frames? Back in the day, they were considered the very best, but is this still the case? The guy that runs GVH Bikes appears to have had some health problems and his shop is closed indefinitely. Is there another source for the Cinelli Super Corsa I could turn to should I decide to purchase? Anything else you can tell me about the Cinelli Super Corsa? Thanks much... |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote:
If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @ http://www.eisentraut.com/ If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli? -- David L. Johnson __o | The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win you're _`\(,_ | still a rat. --Lilly Tomlin (_)/ (_) | |
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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message
... On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote: If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @ http://www.eisentraut.com/ If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli? Agree, Eisentraut has never worked for Cinelli. He learned his trade from the Master frame builder Oscar Wastyn. Outside of maybe Richard Sachs, Albert Eisentraut is the *premier* American frame builder and is also known as the "Godfather of American Framebuilding". For more on him see he http://www.bicycletrader.com/archive...ticles.html#01 |
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Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:10:11 -0400, ,
"David L. Johnson" wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote: If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @ http://www.eisentraut.com/ If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli? Maybe confused with Masi who brought their operation to California. "During the mid-to-late 1970’s and on through the mid 1980’s, many prominent frame builders such as Brian Bayliss, Jim Cunningham, Albert Eisentraut, Mike Howard, Ted Kirkbride, and David Tesch worked for Masi at one time or another. " -- zk |
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That is right. He worked for Masi in S. California. My memory is not what it
once way. Thanks for correcting me. Zoot Katz wrote: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:10:11 -0400, , "David L. Johnson" wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote: If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @ http://www.eisentraut.com/ If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli? Maybe confused with Masi who brought their operation to California. "During the mid-to-late 1970’s and on through the mid 1980’s, many prominent frame builders such as Brian Bayliss, Jim Cunningham, Albert Eisentraut, Mike Howard, Ted Kirkbride, and David Tesch worked for Masi at one time or another. " -- zk |
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Here we go-(nm)
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"Dan H." wrote in message
s.com... There is nothing wrong with the "new" Cinelli Super Corsa. I have sold and built one myself and the customer loves it! I do have one small complaint about the seat binder system but it seems to be holding up as I have had no complaints from the above mentioned customer since he bought it 5 years ago. Since GVH is closed indefinitly, I would be happy to match his rediculusly low price if want to get one. brmATpolitesociety.com Those seat binder bolts are ridiculous. -- Robin Hubert |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:11:38 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:
Those seat binder bolts are ridiculous. I haven't seen one of these close up, but the old Cinelli seat binder treatment and seat lug/seatstay joint were elegant and functional. What has changed? -- David L. Johnson __o | Accept risk. Accept responsibility. Put a lawyer out of _`\(,_ | business. (_)/ (_) | |
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