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Maurice Wibblington wrote:
bugbear wrote: Get a track pump, if you haven't already got one, to keep the tyres nice and hard. Or a Zefal XP pump; expensive for "a pump" but cheaper than a track pump. Could you explain, for a newbie, what the differences are, how they differ from a bogstandard pump, and the pros and cons of each... A track pump is large a floor-standing vertical stirrup pump for using at home. It's gotta be the most efficient and comfortable type of manual pump there is. Zéfal HPX is, IMO, the best full-length pump to put on the bike. It's tough and reliable and the barrel is just right to manage high pressure and a decent volume per stroke as well. The spring lock-out feature is particularly nice. Twiddle a knob and the spring effectively disappears so there's nothing to compress but air at the end of each stroke. It is quite heavy, though, and you look like an armed robber while carrying it around the shops. (Cue jokes about blowing up the gaff). To save space & weight, I like the combination of a super-light mini pump and a CO2 inflator. (That's two separate products to get the best of both worlds, rather than a combined unit). ~PB |
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:01:45 +0100, "Pete Biggs"
wrote: Zéfal HPX is, IMO, the best full-length pump to put on the bike. It's tough and reliable and the barrel is just right to manage high pressure and a decent volume per stroke as well. The spring lock-out feature is particularly nice. Twiddle a knob and the spring effectively disappears so there's nothing to compress but air at the end of each stroke. It is quite heavy, though, and you look like an armed robber while carrying it around the shops. (Cue jokes about blowing up the gaff). if it's quite heavy, and you hopefully won't be needing a pump that often, surely it would make more sense to carry a lightweight bogstandard pump? To save space & weight, I like the combination of a super-light mini pump and a CO2 inflator. (That's two separate products to get the best of both worlds, rather than a combined unit). a superlight mini pump I can understand, but a CO2 inflator? M |
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Maurice Wibblington wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:01:45 +0100, "Pete Biggs" wrote: Zéfal HPX is, IMO, the best full-length pump to put on the bike. It's tough and reliable and the barrel is just right to manage high pressure and a decent volume per stroke as well. The spring lock-out feature is particularly nice. Twiddle a knob and the spring effectively disappears so there's nothing to compress but air at the end of each stroke. It is quite heavy, though, and you look like an armed robber while carrying it around the shops. (Cue jokes about blowing up the gaff). if it's quite heavy, and you hopefully won't be needing a pump that often, surely it would make more sense to carry a lightweight bogstandard pump? For me, its because a HPX works every time, to full presure, and quickly. Cheap pumps don't. -- Andy Morris AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK Love this: Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article bugbear wrote: Rob Morley wrote: Get a track pump, if you haven't already got one, to keep the tyres nice and hard. Or a Zefal XP pump; expensive for "a pump" but cheaper than a track pump. Did you mean Zefal HPX? They're about £20 - you can get a track pump with a gauge for less than that. Perhaps I like toys. My frame pumps are Zefals. Do they have gauges? My track pump is a Silca. And it wasn't 20 quid. Sadly. Neither was mine - it was free :-) Given the choice, all other factors being equal, which would you use to inflate a tyre? Air? |
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Maurice Wibblington wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:01:45 +0100, "Pete Biggs" wrote: Zéfal HPX is, IMO, the best full-length pump to put on the bike. It's tough and reliable and the barrel is just right to manage high pressure and a decent volume per stroke as well. The spring lock-out feature is particularly nice. Twiddle a knob and the spring effectively disappears so there's nothing to compress but air at the end of each stroke. It is quite heavy, though, and you look like an armed robber while carrying it around the shops. (Cue jokes about blowing up the gaff). if it's quite heavy, and you hopefully won't be needing a pump that often, surely it would make more sense to carry a lightweight bogstandard pump? Might only be needed occasionally but it'd be a shame if one of those occasions was in the middle of what would have been your best ride ever and your bog standard pump failed to deliver decent pressure, or broke. To save space & weight, I like the combination of a super-light mini pump and a CO2 inflator. (That's two separate products to get the best of both worlds, rather than a combined unit). a superlight mini pump I can understand, but a CO2 inflator? Full pressure in three seconds from a tiny device, for virtually no physical effort. ~PB |
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Pete Biggs wrote: snip Might only be needed occasionally but it'd be a shame if one of those occasions was in the middle of what would have been your best ride ever and your bog standard pump failed to deliver decent pressure, or broke. Better carry a defibrillator as well, just in case your best ever ride gets interrupted by acute myocardial infarction. |
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in message , Maurice
Wibblington ('pimple@arse/met') wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:01:45 +0100, "Pete Biggs" wrote: Zéfal HPX is, IMO, the best full-length pump to put on the bike. It's tough and reliable and the barrel is just right to manage high pressure and a decent volume per stroke as well. The spring lock-out feature is particularly nice. Twiddle a knob and the spring effectively disappears so there's nothing to compress but air at the end of each stroke. It is quite heavy, though, and you look like an armed robber while carrying it around the shops. (Cue jokes about blowing up the gaff). if it's quite heavy, and you hopefully won't be needing a pump that often, surely it would make more sense to carry a lightweight bogstandard pump? To save space & weight, I like the combination of a super-light mini pump and a CO2 inflator. (That's two separate products to get the best of both worlds, rather than a combined unit). a superlight mini pump I can understand, but a CO2 inflator? It takes a lot of work to get up to pressure with a mini pump. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ IMHO, there aren't enough committed Christians, but that's care in the community for you. -- Ben Evans |
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Rob Morley wrote:
Might only be needed occasionally but it'd be a shame if one of those occasions was in the middle of what would have been your best ride ever and your bog standard pump failed to deliver decent pressure, or broke. Better carry a defibrillator as well, just in case your best ever ride gets interrupted by acute myocardial infarction. Punctures are the most common sort of mechanical failure, and they're easy to do something about, so it makes sense to be well prepared for them. To put the weight into perspective, the HPX is only 100g heavier than a bogstandard plastic pump. ~PB |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:06:47 +0100, Simon Brooke
wrote: a superlight mini pump I can understand, but a CO2 inflator? It takes a lot of work to get up to pressure with a mini pump. I see. But presumably they're costly or have some other drawback otherwise no-one would bother with any kind of pump? M |
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in message , Maurice
Wibblington ('pimple@arse/met') wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:06:47 +0100, Simon Brooke wrote: a superlight mini pump I can understand, but a CO2 inflator? It takes a lot of work to get up to pressure with a mini pump. I see. But presumably they're costly or have some other drawback otherwise no-one would bother with any kind of pump? CO2 inflators are basically one shot - at least, they're pretty much one shot per cartridge, and the cartridges are (a) not light, and (b) not cheap A single cartridge will get either a road tyre or a mountain bike tyre up to working pressure from flat, but not if you don't get it right first time, and if you have a slow puncture or a second puncture they are useless. The serious mountain bike racers among my friends use a combination of CO2 inflators and tubeless tyres with slime. If they puncture the slime should seal the hole. They use the CO2 to reinflate and pick up a new cartridge next time they got through the feed zone. A bad puncture usually means an abandoned race. If you don't have a support crew waiting with spare cartridges every five miles up the road, you really have to carry a pump as well as an inflator, and if you're going to carry a pump anyway (and you're not racing) a good pump will get you to pressure given time. I have a CO2 inflator but don't usually carry it except when racing off road (which I do very rarely); for normal use a pump (Blackburn Airstick, although a wider bore pump would really make sense on the mountain bike) does the job. At home I have not one but two track pumps! -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; no eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. ;; Jim Morrison |
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