Biker's Diet

Andrew Price wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:00:23 -0400, Barnard Frederick
wrote:

But the low tech way is to
just let yourself go hungry part of the day. I truly believe that if we
are never hungry, then we will never be thin.

That's also been my experience. I've never been successful in losing
weight without a sensation of hunger from time to time.

I've yet to find the miracle "filler" which will still that feeling of
hunger, without throwing on calories which turn into fat, usually, as
someone else noted, on the stomach!

/cue up soundtrack - something by Lawnmower Death perhaps

You simply need to accept the Devil's Tongue as part of your diet!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konnyaku

/me throws up the horns

;-)

--
Dane Buson -
A Code of Honour: never approach a friend's girlfriend or wife with mischief
as your goal. There are too many women in the world to justify that sort of
dishonourable behaviour. Unless she's really attractive.
-- Bruce J. Friedman, "Sex and the Lonely Guy"

Bob in CT wrote:
Today,
I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but because
of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas).

And was your total calories consumed during the day the same as or less
than your total calories burned during the day? How you get the
calories isn't terribly important, provided the overall mix is healthy
enough to provide the essentail minerals, vitamins, etc., etc. the
human body needs. If you eat more calories than you burn in a day, you
gain weight. If you eat less calories than you burn in a day, you lose
weight. Its a diabolically simple concept.

wrote:
Bob in CT wrote:
Today,
I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but because
of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas).

And was your total calories consumed during the day the same as or less
than your total calories burned during the day? How you get the
calories isn't terribly important, provided the overall mix is healthy
enough to provide the essentail minerals, vitamins, etc., etc. the
human body needs. If you eat more calories than you burn in a day, you
gain weight. If you eat less calories than you burn in a day, you lose
weight. Its a diabolically simple concept.

It is indeed simple. The hard part is knowing when to say "when". This
is where different diets fit in that promote a feeling of fullness, and
an exercise plan that doesn't encourage voraciousness help one stick to
the simple "eat less, burn more" plan.

Joseph

On 13 Jul 2006 12:29:34 -0700, wrote:

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an exercise plan that doesn't encourage voraciousness

How does that work?

Andrew Price wrote:
On 13 Jul 2006 12:29:34 -0700, wrote:

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an exercise plan that doesn't encourage voraciousness

How does that work?

Easy. Keep the intensity down. I find that I am only hungry after a
hard ride.

Joseph

Eating small amounts of the right food during a long ride and the proper
snack at the finish will keep hunger away and allow your body to
recuperate quickly.

Weight loss maintenance or gain is a numbers game: You take so many
calories in and if you burn more you lose weight; if you burn less you gain
weight. Knowing how many calories you're taking in and specific calories
in foods allows you to conrol the situation. Its not easy but certainly
doable. Weigh Watchers works, I know, and is a long term solution.


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Andrew Price wrote:
On 13 Jul 2006 12:29:34 -0700,
wrote:

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an exercise plan that doesn't encourage voraciousness

How does that work?

Easy. Keep the intensity down. I find that I am only hungry after a
hard ride.

Joseph

Bob in CT wrote:

I'm on a low carb diet and have been for quite a while. Low carb doesn't
mean "no carb" -- you can still eat fruits and vegetables. You just don't
eat breads (except rarely, of course), desserts, rice, pasta, etc. Today,
I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but because
of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas).

I guess low-carb diet might work for you if you do short rides like 17
miles. When you start doing longer rides, perhaps day after day,
it is very important that your body's carbohydrate stores (glycogen) are
replenished. After all, that is your main source of fuel when you ride.

In general, I'm not a great fan of trick diets. If you eat no more than
you consume, you will not gain weight. With most people it's really
about what they eat, but just that they eat too much when they do. If
you only eat a reasonable amount when and ONLY when you are hungry,
gaining weight is difficult.

WHO and other experts still recommend a diet with about 55 to 75 percent
of energy intake from carbohydrates (15 to 30 % from fat, 10 to 15 %
from protein). Cyclists are not an exception what comes to a good,
balanced diet.

-as

Antti Salonen wrote:
Bob in CT wrote:

I'm on a low carb diet and have been for quite a while. Low carb doesn't
mean "no carb" -- you can still eat fruits and vegetables. You just don't
eat breads (except rarely, of course), desserts, rice, pasta, etc. Today,
I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but because
of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas).

I guess low-carb diet might work for you if you do short rides like 17
miles. When you start doing longer rides, perhaps day after day,
it is very important that your body's carbohydrate stores (glycogen) are
replenished. After all, that is your main source of fuel when you ride.

In general, I'm not a great fan of trick diets. If you eat no more than
you consume, you will not gain weight. With most people it's really
about what they eat, but just that they eat too much when they do. If
you only eat a reasonable amount when and ONLY when you are hungry,
gaining weight is difficult.

WHO and other experts still recommend a diet with about 55 to 75 percent
of energy intake from carbohydrates (15 to 30 % from fat, 10 to 15 %
from protein). Cyclists are not an exception what comes to a good,
balanced diet.

There is a big difference between eating for performance, and eating
for weight loss. Someone who has a good handle on their eating and in
general does not ave a problem balancing their intake with their energy
expenditure needs to make sure they have enough carbos to ensure good
performance if they want to go fast. Someone who is overweight by
definition does not have such good handle on this balance. They need to
adress this imbalance, and for them ultimate performance is not a
concern, losing weight is a concern.

It is of course as simple as not eating too much, but for people who
have problems with that, they need to find ways to make it more
achievable.

Joseph

Does anyone know how much calories they are burning then?
Over eating may be an emotional, or conditioned response. You can read
about it or see a professional if the help here does not do it for you.
One thing I found astonishing is a muscle the length and size of a pen
will lift your leg. You may be thinking you need more calories and or more
muscle but neither are going to help. It is mental toughness 90% and the
other 10 % is mental toughness
Quoted from the Canadian who is biking some 7 days or some crazy deal
without sleep. I could not even do 8 hours.

keep it movin'
bike safe




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Antti Salonen wrote:
Bob in CT wrote:

I'm on a low carb diet and have been for quite a while. Low carb
doesn't
mean "no carb" -- you can still eat fruits and vegetables. You just
don't
eat breads (except rarely, of course), desserts, rice, pasta, etc.
Today,
I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but
because
of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw
vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas).

I guess low-carb diet might work for you if you do short rides like 17
miles. When you start doing longer rides, perhaps day after day,
it is very important that your body's carbohydrate stores (glycogen) are
replenished. After all, that is your main source of fuel when you ride.

In general, I'm not a great fan of trick diets. If you eat no more than
you consume, you will not gain weight. With most people it's really
about what they eat, but just that they eat too much when they do. If
you only eat a reasonable amount when and ONLY when you are hungry,
gaining weight is difficult.

WHO and other experts still recommend a diet with about 55 to 75 percent
of energy intake from carbohydrates (15 to 30 % from fat, 10 to 15 %
from protein). Cyclists are not an exception what comes to a good,
balanced diet.

There is a big difference between eating for performance, and eating
for weight loss. Someone who has a good handle on their eating and in
general does not ave a problem balancing their intake with their energy
expenditure needs to make sure they have enough carbos to ensure good
performance if they want to go fast. Someone who is overweight by
definition does not have such good handle on this balance. They need to
adress this imbalance, and for them ultimate performance is not a
concern, losing weight is a concern.

It is of course as simple as not eating too much, but for people who
have problems with that, they need to find ways to make it more
achievable.

Joseph

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:22:23 GMT, "trino"
wrote:

Does anyone know how much calories they are burning then?
Over eating may be an emotional, or conditioned response. You can read
about it or see a professional if the help here does not do it for you.
One thing I found astonishing is a muscle the length and size of a pen
will lift your leg. You may be thinking you need more calories and or more
muscle but neither are going to help. It is mental toughness 90% and the
other 10 % is mental toughness
Quoted from the Canadian who is biking some 7 days or some crazy deal
without sleep. I could not even do 8 hours.

keep it movin'
bike safe




Hi, seeing as it appears that you are planning on posting here
regularly, could you please stop top posting?
Take a look at how the majority of regulars post and try to follow
that format. It makes it easier for all of us using newsreaders.

Thank you,
Jeff