Calling RBT's Rohloff Riders

On Sep 13, 7:33*pm, Tom Ace wrote:
On Sep 13, 9:06*am, Andre Jute wrote:

* * * We heard about scratch-builds and about Chalo
rebuilding is setup because he was recabling with a single run (as the
makers intend) rather than with an aesthetically pleasing (according
to Tom Ace) run of mixed bare and covered cable.

Drop the word "according", which makes it sound like
I was trying to be an arbiter of taste in general.
I only meant that it was aesthetically pleasing to me.

Tom Ace

Hell, Tom, only a few weeks ago you were identifying typefaces; that's
definitely an activity much indulged by taste-formers. You're being
far too modest. g

Let's just say that the bare cable between stops is part of the racer
aesthetic, with which you appear to agree and which I find
unimaginative and grim, like the Georges Pompidou Centre in Paris or a
flat cap.

Andre Jute
A roadie in full fig, arse in the air, is a visual incitement to
"pour encourager les autres"

On Sep 13, 10:30*pm, Tosspot wrote:
Lou Holtman wrote:
Andre Jute schreef:

You got the EXT klickbox, right?

No I have the internal one. No big deal either. I don't lose any sleep
over it. I can't believe that changing cables is a showstopper for
anyone. The must be another reason.

Me too, I have both. *Now having two Rohloffs, one Afline and a
deraileur set up I'd say the Alfine in the most finicky because the
cable has to be *exactly* right. *The Rohloffs you can have some slack
and they stiil work, the deraileur has to be *exactly* right but is
easy to adjust.

Not much in it, although I haven't done any miles on the Alfine, so
it's only setup. *

Though I do it all the time as it is all I have for reference, it's
both unfair and futile to compare the Rohloff and the Shimano hub gear
boxes. Something like comparing a Mack Truck to a Volvo Estate: both
are carriers but one is intended to run for a million miles and bugger
the crudeness, while the other is very refined but will see only a
tenth of the mileage. Those of us who've bought both must represent a
very small part of the market for either. -- Andre Jute

And so far the Rohloffs have needed less buggering
about with than the deraileur.

Oh, and I have been down the beer garden

On Sep 13, 9:37*pm, Lou Holtman wrote:
Andre Jute schreef:



You got the EXT klickbox, right?

No I have the internal one. No big deal either. I don't lose any sleep
over it. I can't believe that changing cables is a showstopper for
anyone. The must be another reason.

Lou

You could have to change cables at 30,000 kilometres! Oh, tragedy! Oh,
woe! LOL. -- AJ