Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour

On Jun 25, 2:22*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:00*pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:

hizark21 wrote:

Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course

51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it
indicate?

I don't know that the result itself indicates all that much, but he is
a fair bit leaner, and that is a good thing when the road goes up,
right?

R

The odds makers have Lance as second favourite. They must know more
than us. Personally I don't think he'll place that high. Of course,
there's a 50/50 chance that he might.

Andre

"hizark21" wrote in message
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Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to
judge.

"hizark21" wrote in message
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Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to
judge.

There is no 90 minute race that can show anything about a Tour contender
save that he isn't dead.

hizark21 wrote:
Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging.

Tom Kunich" wrote:
Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with
anything at all?

hizark21 wrote:
Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course

Carl Sundquist wrote:
51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it
indicate?


Any other crit and I'd agree that his result doesn't indicate much. But
Nevada City is most definitely not any other crit, as you certainly know,
and it was a really good field. Accounts from strong guys in the race are
unanimous: Lance's power was very impressive. Nevada City is like doing
forty closely-spaced 90-second intervals at way over threshold and it
appeared that Lance was going just as good at the end. So, I think his
result indicates that he may be able to withstand repeated attacks on the
big TdF climbs from Contador, you know, the world's best stage racer.

BTW, here are two nice videos of portions of Nevada City:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPtOUy5oZc

http://deltavelo.com/09_race_videos/..._city_men.html

marco wrote:
Any other crit and I'd agree that his result doesn't indicate much. But
Nevada City is most definitely not any other crit, as you certainly
know, and it was a really good field. Accounts from strong guys in the
race are unanimous: Lance's power was very impressive. Nevada City is
like doing forty closely-spaced 90-second intervals at way over
threshold and it appeared that Lance was going just as good at the end.
So, I think his result indicates that he may be able to withstand
repeated attacks on the big TdF climbs from Contador, you know, the
world's best stage racer.

Contado skipped Nevada City. I think LANCE is putting a big psyche
job on him. Nevada City is right up there with the Dauphiné Libéré
as an indicator of Tour form.

Bob Schwartz

"marco" wrote in message
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Any other crit and I'd agree that his result doesn't indicate much. But
Nevada City is most definitely not any other crit, as you certainly know,
and it was a really good field. Accounts from strong guys in the race are
unanimous: Lance's power was very impressive. Nevada City is like doing
forty closely-spaced 90-second intervals at way over threshold and it
appeared that Lance was going just as good at the end. So, I think his
result indicates that he may be able to withstand repeated attacks on the
big TdF climbs from Contador, you know, the world's best stage racer.

BTW, here are two nice videos of portions of Nevada City:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPtOUy5oZc

http://deltavelo.com/09_race_videos/..._city_men.html

While Lance and Levi looked GREAT GREAT GREAT (as did Ben Jacques-Maynes),
the very fact that Ben could stay with them demonstrated that the length of
the race was such that you couldn't tell the TdF levels from the national
championship levels.

On Jun 25, 2:44*pm, "marco" wrote:
hizark21 wrote:
Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging.
Tom Kunich" wrote:
Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with
anything at all?
hizark21 wrote:
Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course
Carl Sundquist wrote:
51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it
indicate?

Any other crit and I'd agree that his result doesn't indicate much. But
Nevada City is most definitely not any other crit, as you certainly know,
and it was a really good field. Accounts from strong guys in the race are
unanimous: Lance's power was very impressive. Nevada City is like doing
forty closely-spaced 90-second intervals at way over threshold and it
appeared that Lance was going just as good at the end. So, I think his
result indicates that he may be able to withstand repeated attacks on the
big TdF climbs from Contador, you know, the world's best stage racer.

You can't really infer how well Lance will do on the big climbs from
this race. But it does give some indication of Lances form. If Lance
is off form there is a slight chance that he may try to race to
increase his form during early stages of the TDF. This will proabably
prove difficult, because of Contador and Leipheimer as well as other
riders.

BTW, here are two nice videos of portions of Nevada City:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPtOUy5oZc

http://deltavelo.com/09_race_videos/..._city_men.html

"hizark21" wrote in message
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You can't really infer how well Lance will do on the big climbs from
this race. But it does give some indication of Lances form. If Lance
is off form there is a slight chance that he may try to race to
increase his form during early stages of the TDF. This will proabably
prove difficult, because of Contador and Leipheimer as well as other
riders.

I don't think it gives much understanding of Lance's condition since he was
riding against essentially amateurs and the race was only for an hour and a
half. Obviously he showed that he can ride near max output for an hour and a
half but we can't tell what his max output is compared to a "real"
competitor.

On Jun 25, 7:28*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"hizark21" wrote in message

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You can't really infer how well Lance will do on the big climbs from
this race. But it does give some indication of Lances form. If Lance
is off form there is a slight chance that he may try to race to
increase his form during early stages of the TDF. This will proabably
prove difficult, because of Contador and Leipheimer as well as other
riders.

I don't think it gives much understanding of Lance's condition since he was
riding against essentially amateurs and the race was only for an hour and a
half. Obviously he showed that he can ride near max output for an hour and a
half but we can't tell what his max output is compared to a "real"
competitor.

I agree the race only indicates that Lance's form is improving. But
you can't compare this to pro race conditions.

On Jun 25, 2:44*pm, "marco" wrote:

Any other crit and I'd agree that his result doesn't indicate much. But
Nevada City is most definitely not any other crit, as you certainly know,
and it was a really good field. Accounts from strong guys in the race are
unanimous: Lance's power was very impressive. Nevada City is like doing
forty closely-spaced 90-second intervals at way over threshold and it
appeared that Lance was going just as good at the end. So, I think his
result indicates that he may be able to withstand repeated attacks on the
big TdF climbs from Contador, you know, the world's best stage racer.



Dumbass -

Nevada City calls for a completely different type of effort than a
hors climb in the TdF.

For example, Oscar Friere (or the heavy, non-TdF contending young
version of LANCE) likely could've beat this version of LANCE at Nevada
City. When it comes to the hors climb, it doesn't mean jack does it?

LANCE is doing well at repeated 90 second anaerobic efforts. That's
great for a "Masters Skinny" like him. Still, it doesn't mean he'll be
able to take Contador in an hors climb.

IMO, a more hopeful indicator is his light weight.

thanks,

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