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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote:
On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. If Lance has any chance of winning this years TDF it have to be in the TT. I seriously doubt the that Lance is capable of attacking in the col's. So Lance will have a commanding lead in the TT's. This will force his Contador to defend him. Assuming that Lance rides a great TT, then he will most likely ride a defensive Tour. But this is only natural considering his age. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 30, 2:50*am, hizark21 wrote:
On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. If Lance has any chance of winning this years TDF it have to be in the TT. I seriously doubt the that Lance is capable of attacking in the col's. So Lance will have a commanding lead in the TT's. This will force his Contador to defend him. Assuming that Lance rides a great TT, then he will most likely ride a defensive Tour. But this is only natural considering his age.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Contador will defend nobody. He's out to win it! Even if he finds himself behind after the TT, he'll climb the mountains attacking and in search of regaining the lead; which he is very capable of doing. Andre |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 30, 4:55*am, Andre wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:50*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. If Lance has any chance of winning this years TDF it have to be in the TT. I seriously doubt the that Lance is capable of attacking in the col's. So Lance will have a commanding lead in the TT's. This will force his Contador to defend him. Assuming that Lance rides a great TT, then he will most likely ride a defensive Tour. But this is only natural considering his age.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Contador will defend nobody. He's out to win it! Even if he finds himself *behind after the TT, he'll climb the mountains attacking and in search of regaining the lead; which he is very capable of doing. * * * * * Andre It depends on how much influence Bruyneel has. My guess is that Contador will wait for Lance to falter and then attack. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
KG writes:
On Jun 29, 9:39Â*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11Â*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00Â*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? hmmm... i didn't go through all the results, but ivan gutierrez wasn't a slouch against the clock. no indurain/olano, but=20 a little poking around gives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_UC...7s_=Time_Trial rogers hasn't done much since then but 'same time' as cancellara isn't to be sniffed at. i'm not saying anything about contagor, but more that the spanish don't suck. just relative to what they used to be. \p --- Worry, the interest paid by those who borrow trouble. - George Washington |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote:
On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? All countries cycling have their ups and downs. thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 30, 5:12*pm, hizark21 wrote:
On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? All countries cycling have their ups and downs. Dumbass - I think it's a cultural thing because Spain produces plenty of excellent mass start racers, but they're not so good at the TT. By contrast, Americans are better at TT than they are at mass start. IMO, it's because Americans like to mess around with equipment and wind tunnels and all that and the Spanish don't. Even the US Masters Fatties pay more attention to aerogeekness than a Spanish professional. Topping of this thesis: the best Spanish time trialist ever, Indurain, wasn't aero. He just had so much wattage that it didn't matter. That said, Contador is going to have his aero ducks in a row because his DS is Johan Bruyneel and not some traditional Spanish DS whose idea of tactics in the ITT is to stick his fat self out the sunroof of the follow vehicle yelling, "Venga! Venga! Venga!" thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 30, 7:05*pm, KG wrote:
On Jun 30, 5:12*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? All countries cycling have their ups and downs. Dumbass - I think it's a cultural thing because Spain produces plenty of excellent mass start racers, but they're not so good at the TT. By contrast, Americans are better at TT than they are at mass start. IMO, it's because Americans like to mess around with equipment and wind tunnels and all that and the Spanish don't. Even the US Masters Fatties pay more attention to aerogeekness than a Spanish professional. Topping of this thesis: the best Spanish time trialist ever, Indurain, wasn't aero. He just had so much wattage that it didn't matter. What in world are you talking about. Indurain is probably one top 3 time trialists of all time. Indurain consistently put 1 or 2 minutes on his rivals until the latter part of his career. That said, Contador is going to have his aero ducks in a row because his DS is Johan Bruyneel and not some traditional Spanish DS whose idea of tactics in the ITT is to stick his fat self out the sunroof of the follow vehicle yelling, "Venga! Venga! Venga!" thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
"hizark21" wrote in message
... On Jun 30, 7:05 pm, KG wrote: Topping of this thesis: the best Spanish time trialist ever, Indurain, wasn't aero. He just had so much wattage that it didn't matter. What in world are you talking about. Indurain is probably one top 3 time trialists of all time. Indurain consistently put 1 or 2 minutes on his rivals until the latter part of his career. Huh? That's what Henry just said. |
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Basso: Armstrong will be a beast at the Tour
On Jun 30, 7:15*pm, hizark21 wrote:
On Jun 30, 7:05*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 30, 5:12*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 29, 11:28*pm, KG wrote: On Jun 29, 9:39*pm, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:11*am, hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 11:00*am, Carl Sundquist wrote: hizark21 wrote: On Jun 25, 7:58 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "hizark21" wrote in message ... Lance's recent performanc at the Nevada city race is encouraging. Just out of curiosity - just what the hell would that have to do with anything at all? Well it gives some indication of Lance's form of course 51 finishers in a 90 minute crit. Two going to the Tour. What does it indicate? Well it shows that Lance can attack. But like I said it's hard to judge. With Contador's recent national TT victory (http://www.bikeradar.com/ news/article/contador-wins-spanish-national-time-trial-22201 ) I think his chances of winning shifts firmly in his favor. Till now I believed that Lance might have a chance of winning the TT and Contador would be forced to defend Lance. Dumbass - Contador may indeed be there with his TT skills, but winning the Spanish TT championship is hardly evidence of his prowess. That nation is awash in climbers, but who's been good from Spain since the days of Indurain/Olano? All countries cycling have their ups and downs. Dumbass - I think it's a cultural thing because Spain produces plenty of excellent mass start racers, but they're not so good at the TT. By contrast, Americans are better at TT than they are at mass start. IMO, it's because Americans like to mess around with equipment and wind tunnels and all that and the Spanish don't. Even the US Masters Fatties pay more attention to aerogeekness than a Spanish professional. Topping of this thesis: the best Spanish time trialist ever, Indurain, wasn't aero. He just had so much wattage that it didn't matter. What in world are you talking about. Indurain is probably one top 3 time trialists of all time. Indurain consistently put 1 or 2 minutes on his rivals until the latter part of his career Please reread before jerking thy knee. |
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