Cyclists: Stop riding dangerously !

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London’s cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London’s cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!

Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:54:15 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London's cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!

Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

"everyone abiding by the rules and co-existing is key"

No more 10%+2mph on speed limits.

MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London’s cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

QED.

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'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
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On 15/03/2016 13:50, John Smith wrote:

MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London’s cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

QED.

What do you say has been demonstrated?

"JNugent" wrote
On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London's cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!

Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

What makes you suppose that the people he refers to and his fans are the
same people? And what about the third category?

(You can try using intelligence and/or telepathy to work out the third
category.)

Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:54:15 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London's cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!

Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

"everyone abiding by the rules and co-existing is key"

No more 10%+2mph on speed limits.

Or using a mobile phone whilst driving. Or running a red light. Or
surfing on your phone whilst driving. Or taking a selfie whilst driving.
Or driving whilst drunk or on drugs. Or tailgating. Or playing with the
'satnav' whilst driving. Or driving for longer than the statutory maximum
time (for commercial drivers). Or driving without insurance. Or driving
without a licence.

Oops ....
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john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 16/03/2016 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

"JNugent" wrote
On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London's cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!
Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

What makes you suppose that the people he refers to and his fans are the
same people? And what about the third category?
(You can try using intelligence and/or telepathy to work out the third
category.)

I can remember a time when certain posters here could not sing BW's
praises highly enough. They certainly are not going to like his drawing
attention to the sheer lawlessness and unalloyed chavvery of London
cyclists (and by extension, cylists elsewhere).

That is the very obvious import of what I was talking about (and you
knew it).

But what are *you* talking about?

On 16/03/2016 11:43, John Smith wrote:
Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:54:15 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 14/03/2016 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:

Sir Bradley Wiggins warns London's cyclists: Stop riding dangerously or
face crackdown. Cyclists have to help themselves by behaving.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3202296.html

Oops!

Some of his most devoted fans are not going to like that.

"everyone abiding by the rules and co-existing is key"

No more 10%+2mph on speed limits.

Or using a mobile phone whilst driving. Or running a red light. Or
surfing on your phone whilst driving. Or taking a selfie whilst driving.
Or driving whilst drunk or on drugs. Or tailgating. Or playing with the
'satnav' whilst driving. Or driving for longer than the statutory maximum
time (for commercial drivers). Or driving without insurance. Or driving
without a licence.

Nobody normal has a problem with much of that (NB: there is no law
against adjusting a satnav).

Especially not the bit about qualified cyclists not attempting to
pretend to be a driver. We speak here of people who haven't got a
driving licence or insurance and have absolutely no road sense or
consideration for others and are thus qualified only to ride a bike, of
course.

It's really funny that you include "running a red light" - as though the
average cyclist even knew what a red light means.

JNugent wrote:
On 16/03/2016 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

What makes you suppose that the people he refers to and his fans are
the same people? And what about the third category? (You can try using
intelligence and/or telepathy to work out the third category.)

I can remember a time when certain posters here could not sing BW's
praises highly enough. They certainly are not going to like his drawing
attention to the sheer lawlessness and unalloyed chavvery of London
cyclists (and by extension, cylists elsewhere).

Of course, the truth is very different from your trolls. It has been
demonstrated to the satisfaction of the reasonable man (you can sit this
one out) that the level of 'lawlessness' among psychopaths is far, far
higher than among cyclists.

10% of cyclists found to jump red lights (Sunday Times study, November
2013)

14% of drivers jump red lights (Direct Line survey, August 2011)

31% of drivers admit to using a mobile phone whilst driving (Direct
Line survey, March 2012, RAC Report on Motoring 2013)

23% of drivers confess to texting whilst at the wheel (RAC Report on
Motoring 2012, Direct Line survey, March 2012)

11% of drivers admit to accessing email or social media while driving RAC
Report on Motoring 2012

18% of drivers admit to accessing the internet while driving IAM survey,
July 2015

9% of drivers admit to having taken a selfie within the last month while
driving IAM survey, July 2015

8% of drivers admit to using video calling while driving IAM survey, July
2015

7% of drivers admit to watching video while driving IAM survey, July 2015

83% of drivers admit to being regular speeders (whilst 92% say they are
law-abiding) RAC Report on Motoring 2012

36% of drivers admit to speeding in 20mph zones RAC Report on Motoring
2013 and RAC Report on Motoring 2012

75% of drivers found to exceed the speed limit on one 30mph road police
operation, Cambridge, April 2009

46% of drivers admit to speeding in 30mph limits RAC Report on Motoring
2012

63% of drivers admit to driving at over 35mph in 30mph limits (including
76% of at-work drivers) Direct Line survey, September 2013, Direct
Line survey, January 2013

37% of drivers admit to speeding in 50mph and 60mph limits RAC Report on
Motoring 2012

65% of drivers admit to breaking the speed limit on motorways RAC Report
on Motoring 2013

61% of drivers admit to driving at over 80mph on motorways Direct Line
survey, October 2010

7% of drivers admit to having driven whilst knowing or suspecting they were
over the drink driving limit RAC Report on Motoring 2012

49% of drivers admit to flouting road laws (40% of women and 58% of men) of
whom half did so deliberately because they thought they could get away
with it or did not agree with the laws Brake/Direct Line survey, April
2015

35% of drivers admit to continuing to drive when feeling sleepy Direct
Line survey, July 2013

A group of drivers failed to see 22% of cyclists and 15% of motorcyclists
who were in clear view (for cyclists: 30% in London, and 26% for female
drivers) Direct Line research study, April 2013

53% of drivers admit to driving within two seconds of the vehicle in front
on motorways Direct Line survey, March 2012

24% of drivers admit to adjusting their satnav whilst driving (including
51% of company car drivers) RAC Report on Mororing 2013

Between and of HGVs found to be breaking at least one law
police operation, North Wales, February 2013, police operation, London,
September 2008

70% of HGVs found to be defective and/or illegally operated Metropolitan
Police records, January-November 2013

89% of LGVs found to be overloaded in DVSA inspections DVSA chief
executive

56% of LGVs found to be in poor mechanical condition in DVSA inspections
DVSA chief executive

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john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))