How crap are these?

Just wondering if anyone has experience of these either good or bad?

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=86245

Martin Wilson wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has experience of these either good or bad?

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=86245

Without knowing the weight, I'd steer clear.

Zog The Undeniable wrote:

Without knowing the weight, I'd steer clear.

I'd be inclined to steer clear in any case. I remember watching a TV
prog once on an advanced driving course given by racing and rally
drivers. Point #1 was "a good car with bad tyres is a bad car", and I
think the same will go for bikes. Spend a few more pennies and you can
have something Serious from Vredestein, Schwalbe, Michelin, Specialized
etc. which almost certainly *will* do a better job. And "better job"
from a tyre means potentially safer, faster, less punctures, longer
lasting and better handling. Saving a tenner (or even two) on them just
strikes me as a clear false economy.

Pete.
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In my experience, such as it is High Gear products are not at all bad for
the price. Example having run my Giant ATB using good quality Michelin's
that have proved to be useless, compared to my Marin that has cheap yes Hi
Gears fitted when used in muddy conditions. As for weight hell what is a few
grams compared to the average weight of an average rider.
Ray

Martin Wilson wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has experience of these either good or bad?


http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...lay?storeId=10
001&langId=-1&catalogId=1751&productId=86245

I've not tried them but I can tell from the tread pattern that they
wouldn't be very good on road, if that's what you want to use them for.
Better would be Schwalbe City Jet @ £23.99 inc tubes & postage from
www.wiggle.co.uk

Note that Hi Gear is a "rebrand" name, not a manufacturer as such. I've
seen certain seemingly identical products (including inner tubes)
rebranded with various names, including Hi Gear.

I've had a failure with a Hi Gear inner tube at the valve bonding. But to
be fair, that's something that can happen with expensive brands as well
sometimes.

~PB

"R.D" wrote in message
...
In my experience, such as it is High Gear products are not at all bad for
the price. Example having run my Giant ATB using good quality Michelin's
that have proved to be useless, compared to my Marin that has cheap yes Hi
Gears fitted when used in muddy conditions. As for weight hell what is a
few
grams compared to the average weight of an average rider.
Ray


I agree - I've no direct experience with this particular product, but Hi
Gear equipment is usually reliable, if a bit basic. I suspect it depends
what you want to use these tyres for, but if it's just for hacking about,
I'd give them a try.

In article , Pete Biggs
wrote:
I've had a failure with a Hi Gear inner tube at the valve bonding.
But to be fair, that's something that can happen with expensive
brands as well sometimes.

In which case why mention it?

I have used several hundred Hi Gear inner tubes with no problems.

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net

in message , Martin Wilson
') wrote:


Just wondering if anyone has experience of these either good or bad?


http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=86245

They may not be crap at all. But I would be very wary. You can get
perfectly good name brand tyres from your LBS for not much more.


--
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"This young man has not the faintest idea how socialists think and does
not begin to understand the mentality of the party he has been elected
to lead. He is quite simply a liberal"
-- Ken Coates MEP (Lab) of Tony Blair

in message , R.D
') wrote:

In my experience, such as it is High Gear products are not at all bad
for the price. Example having run my Giant ATB using good quality
Michelin's that have proved to be useless, compared to my Marin that
has cheap yes Hi Gears fitted when used in muddy conditions. As for
weight hell what is a few grams compared to the average weight of an
average rider.

Weight is one of the first priorities for a cyclist anywhere but Holland
and Leicestershire (and other very very flat places). And weight in the
tyres is the worst place to have it because it adds to the rotating
mass, affecting acceleration, braking and handling.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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On 3/7/04 8:05 pm, in article
, "Simon Brooke"
wrote:


Weight is one of the first priorities for a cyclist anywhere but Holland
and Leicestershire (and other very very flat places). And weight in the
tyres is the worst place to have it because it adds to the rotating
mass, affecting acceleration, braking and handling.

I had economised by buying som H****ords own brand tyres. After a few
hundred miles one developed a lump, noticeable when riding. This gradually
expanded till the tyre blew. Not impressed. Replaced both with Schwalbe city
jet which have proved to be a lot better. So far they barely show wear
despite many hundreds of miles.

Next slicks will be Nokian AWS purely because the tread pattern is so cool..

...d