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Pedal/Crank Grabbing in Trials
I think your cranks are allowed to touch stuff too, in Trials competition, but I haven't tried looking it up. Is anyone looking at actual Trials rules in this thread? Beyond that, the object of Unicycle Trials is to complete sections. There are no style points for how you do it, as long as it's within the rules. Modified rules that eliminate pedal grabs, or possibly other stuff, are possible, but that would be a specialized version of a Trials comp by todays standards. Complete your sections however you want, but your score will be the same as the grabbers. -- johnfoss John Foss Email: "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com ----------------------------------------------- Man with broken collar bone say: "Have you checked your shoelaces lately?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70663 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Pedal/Crank Grabbing in Trials
ntappin wrote: One of the main arguments you are using is that for bikes they aren't allowed to do it. But the thing is a bike has two wheels, they are alowed to use both wheels and one of the techniques they use is to hook the front wheel onto thinks and then pull themselves up. With a bike using your pedals or bash plate is usually less efficient than using your front tire, and if you can use your pedals/bash plate then you could probably do the line easily with just the tires. For unicycles we don't have an alternative method of hooking and pulling up objects besides our pedals. A hooking method is really useful and the pedals are our only method. If your big argument is that bike's aren't allowed to do it, well then I disagree, they just do it differently. A pedal grab on a uni is also different than one done on a bike, with a bike they usually will have a wheel touching as well as the pedal and so they don't have to rely on their balance as much. With pedal grabs, yes you are on a flat surface but it takes quite good balance to get up from it, and as you know, its a very tough skill in itself. Bikes using their pedal for the most part is just the same skill as hooking with a tire, but a bit easier, so its not much different than something already there, just uglier. I think your idea of "cleaning up" competition is an alright one, but unicycles are simple, and there isn't much more that we can do to clean up the performance, this will come more from the design of the trials course. If you give people courses where they can't pedal grab as much or they don't have large areas to do lots of prehopping or bouncing around then you will clean up the riding a lot more than disallowing pedal grabs. That's what I wanted to say. Especially the first paragraph, but I didn't know how to explain it. Thanks Nathan. -- Emile.m Ntappin wrote: I'm a butcher, and it took me like 10 minutes to get one nub off my luna. 2nd *)---TreFlip-'O, M'y galler' (http://tinyurl.com/23w828)y ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Emile.m's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16667 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70663 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Pedal/Crank Grabbing in Trials
_Ground_Zero_ wrote: Maybe it would be more fair if a trials competition went like this. Pedal grab -1 point, crankgrab -3 points, fall -5 points. Who ever has the most points wins. That would make an interesting competition. Another way of cleaning up the lines would be a penalty for doing more than X prehops. Or a bonus for completing a section w/in X seconds. -- skilewis74 Ride everywhere and never just ride anywhere. If you can ride where you are going within a hour, do it, and if you can do a trick 50-75% of the time do it along the way.- Bob Burnquist What next? 'IUF skill levels' (http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/levels/)*' Street' (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Unicyclopedia/Street)*'unicycletips.com' (http://unicycletips.com/)*'Trials class system' (http://tinyurl.com/yqpvxk)*'Trials Building' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64235) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ skilewis74's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12404 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70663 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Pedal/Crank Grabbing in Trials
skilewis74 wrote: Another way of cleaning up the lines would be a penalty for doing more than X prehops. Or a bonus for completing a section w/in X seconds. It's a trials comp not a street comp. There are no "style points".... if you want to make your video's flowy then fine, but at a comp you do whatever you want. I think pedal/crank grabs look ****e and I hardly ever do them, but in a comp everythign goes. Trial bikers have a front wheel let us have the pedal. -- brendan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ brendan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13680 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70663 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Pedal/Crank Grabbing in Trials
Outlawing pedal/crank grabs in the higher levels of competition could mean less obstacles to build for event organizers. Have three levels of sections: beginner, intermediate, and expert. Intermediate and expert share sections, but intermediate can pedal/crank grab and expert can't. -- zfreak220 -Conrad ------------------------------------------------------------------------ zfreak220's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11948 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/70663 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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