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Old June 27th 03, 06:03 PM
JD
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"Alan McClure" wrote in message news:dPLKa.27339$Ab2.51798@sccrnsc01...
So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say it is 8-12
inches tall.


Be very scared because anything dumping a log that big has to be huge.

JD
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Old June 27th 03, 06:16 PM
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:16:01 -0400, "Michael Dart"
wrote:


"Jon Bond" wrote in message
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"Alan McClure" wrote in message
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So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say it is

8-12
inches tall.

Do You:

1) get off and carry your bike over
2) hop over it
3)bunny hop over it
4)Other


You see, out of all the obstacles I come across, this is the only one

that
consistently stumps me. I can get over them most of the time(especially
when they are smaller--heheheh), but it never feels smooth(rear wheel
bumps), sometimes I hit my chainring, and 1/3 of the time I fall or get
stuck. I am so frustrated because I can't seem to figure out how to get
over them easily after many, many times trying. Soooo, what do you all

do
when you see a log up ahead? And, what do you recommend me trying.

I'll
practice anything if it'll help.

Thanks,

Alan McClure


Hop it. If its under 6", and i've got speed, I'll just jump the sucker.

I
don't have a great bunny hop, its more of a lift both wheels at once
clipless cheating thing, so anything bigger than that and I do my second
technique, which is basically a slow motion bunnyhop (I've done it on logs
up to approx 26"/wheelsize) -

Approach log fairly slowly, but not superslow. Figure middle front, one

of
the three largest rear. Rock backwards on the bike, pulling the bar with
you, and get the front wheel on the very top of the log. Try to stay
forward on the bike, over the bars, when you get to the log - if you're

too
far back, then you'll simply run right into the log with the rear wheel

and
fall. Ok, here's the important step - and its pretty hard to do without
clipless. What you want to do is pull up the rear wheel and put it on top
of the log. At the same time, you want to throw the front of the bike
forwards and down. This is a VERY explosive move, you actually get both
tires off the ground for a bit. If you really do it well, and have enough
speed, you can actually clear the whole log this way. Usually, especially
on bigger logs, you'll simply end up with the front wheel down on the
ground, and the rear wheel on top. If you had the speed perfect, and do

it
right, then the wheel will come right off, and not even hit the top hard.
If not, you can give a very small pedal stroke and just watch your

balance.

Here's pretty much what I'm talking about, although Charlie doesn't quite
get the rear wheel all the way on top. Give 'im some slack tho, he is in
his mid 60s (and can still outpace me anyday, the guy's an animal!)
http://pages.prodigy.com/CharlieB/log.htm

Hope that helps.

Jon Bond



Jons got it. Though it seems the number 4 option around here is to scrounge
the woods for enoungh sticks to build a pile over the 8" log. Please don't
do this. Use Jons technique, just start small 6-8" to get the timing down
then larger logs are easier. Works for big rocks too. If you get the
timing right and your 'lunge' is strong enough your chainring will clear
almost anything. I've even used it in the city for hopping up on 2 foot
tall walls.

Mike



Yep. This skill is quite handy indeed.
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Old June 29th 03, 10:49 AM
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Jon Bond wrote:
"David Kunz" wrote in message
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Paladin wrote:

Bill Wheeler wrote in message


. ..

...

Good description, Bill, and if a guy stalls on top of the log, just
start pedaling. Either the chain ring will dig in and propel the
rider forward, or the pedal will come down and do the same. Works for
me too.


Now I need to try it too .

I use the lift/slam method: lift the front end like they do, as I go
over, I shift forward unweighting the rear, but I typically slam the
chain-rings (tooth fairy) into logs over 1'.

What I do for the bigger one (like 1-1/2-2'), is to go slower and be
prepared to unclip and give a push with my foot to get over the top if I
need it (if momentum + 1/2 pedal stroke don't get me over). That way,
I'm much less likely to end-up with me on one side of the log (the far
side) and the bike still on the near side .

David



Only problem with that technique is when you get to that 2' log, and you do
an instant endo when the rear wheel gets up (IF you can even get it up there
without the hop) because your weight is way too far forwards. Wheel sized
logs make for very steep exit angles.


Yea, found that out .
The last time that I cut down a tree (I hate dutch elm disease) I saved
a couple of logs for practise in the back yard. I used the smaller ones
to get my technique to the point where I don't panic every time that I
see a log (even though I always made them (almost ), but I haven't
tried the last one yet -- it's over 2'. It's time .

David

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Old June 29th 03, 04:09 PM
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"Alan McClure" wrote in message
news:dPLKa.27339$Ab2.51798@sccrnsc01...
So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say it is 8-12
inches tall.

Do You:

1) get off and carry your bike over
2) hop over it
3)bunny hop over it
4)Other


5) Trip over it while walking and fall flat on my face! :-)


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Old July 3rd 03, 12:07 PM
Stephen Baker
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Bill Wheeler says:

Please post another AMB-Bar that I don't get ;-)


He posted one last week, but... you.... ummm.... obviously, errrrr didn't
get it?

;-)

Steve
 




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