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campagnolo victory or triomphe ?
hi there,
I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) Does anybody know what is "TUBI RINFORZATI FORMULA ONE BIANCHI PRODUZIONE COLUMBUS" - I have read somewhere that 3 main tubes - from that kind of frame - are made from columbus SL - is that true ? regards Mariusz |
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campagnolo victory or triomphe ?
Does anybody know what is "TUBI RINFORZATI FORMULA ONE BIANCHI PRODUZIONE COLUMBUS" - I have read somewhere that 3 main tubes - from that kind of frame - are made from columbus SL - is that true ? Hi, quite an amount for such an old bike. And what a size! You must be more than 2 meters tall. The italian phrase says that the tubes are made from reinforced steel by Columbus. No Columbus stickers? Usually chrom-molybdenum steel. Group determination: not for me. Good luck. Sjef |
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campagnolo victory or triomphe ?
mariusz wrote: hi there, I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) Does anybody know what is "TUBI RINFORZATI FORMULA ONE BIANCHI PRODUZIONE COLUMBUS" - I have read somewhere that 3 main tubes - from that kind of frame - are made from columbus SL - is that true ? regards Mariusz Tough to say which group it is since both were almost identical. Columbus chro-mo steel butted tubing. If it were SL, the sticker would have been blue. Nice find for $169..it'll work well, for a long tome...Just get a period RD, so that the bike isn't sullied by the one that's one there... |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
mariusz wrote: hi there, I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) Tough to say which group it is since both were almost identical. Columbus chro-mo steel butted tubing. If it were SL, the sticker would have been blue. Nice find for $169..it'll work well, for a long tome...Just get a period RD, so that the bike isn't sullied by the one that's one there... Definitely a Victory or Triomphe crank but definitely not the shifters and I don't think the brake levers either. |
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campagnolo victory or triomphe ?
ventourist wrote: Does anybody know what is "TUBI RINFORZATI FORMULA ONE BIANCHI PRODUZIONE COLUMBUS" - I have read somewhere that 3 main tubes - from that kind of frame - are made from columbus SL - is that true ? Hi, quite an amount for such an old bike. And what a size! You must be more than 2 meters tall. Phoo. It's probably a 62 or 64 cm, which is the size I ride, and I'm only 6-foot-4 (195cm). Jeff |
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campagnolo victory or triomphe ?
On 2006-12-21, mariusz wrote:
I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) Here are pictures of the Triomphe and Victory groups: http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/catalogs/triomphe.pdf http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/catalogs/victory.pdf HTH... -- John ) |
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thank you for this pdf files
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"ventourist" writes:
Does anybody know what is "TUBI RINFORZATI FORMULA ONE BIANCHI PRODUZIONE COLUMBUS" - Butted Tubes Bianchi One product of Columbus (custom-drawn tubes - bianchi named them.) (it's pretty easy to get custom-drawn tubes from reynolds or columbus, if you're willing to buy 100+ pieces.) The partial grouppo is Campagnolo Victory. The way you can tell is by taper on the right crank spider. Lower-end Triomphe spider tapers in a bowtie shape. Victory spider is a pure Trapezoid taper. The bad news is that you will have the weirdo reverse threads on the left crank arm or on both crank arms. Luckily, you seem to have self-extracting bolts. I wouldn't remove & reinstall these bolts too often, if they get stripped. you're totally screwed ... The bicycle in my office right now (1985 Trek #510) is campy triomphe (the lower model grouppo). These grouppos were supposed to replace Nuovo Record (Triomphe) and Super Record (Victory). It didn't stick. These two grouppos - which were almost identical - almost killed campy - they were so plain and downright ugly - in the early 1980's. The work great, however. Also, the cranks are not anodized, which was a first for campagnolo, so they can be polished to a beautiful shine without damaging the finish. You appear to have the campagnolo retrofriction levers. These are an upgrade from Victory/Triomphe (does it make them C-Record or Croce D'aune ? I don't know.) Someone has put a Shimano 105 arabesque derailleur on the back of this bicycle, and they also did something to the front brake bolt and brake pads. The first thing i'd do is to put a chromed dome nut on that front brake, it looks horrible with the nut that's on there right now. - Don Gillies San Diego, CA, USA I have read somewhere that 3 main tubes - from that kind of frame - are made from columbus SL - is that true ? Hi, quite an amount for such an old bike. And what a size! You must be more than 2 meters tall. The italian phrase says that the tubes are made from reinforced steel by Columbus. No Columbus stickers? Usually chrom-molybdenum steel. Group determination: not for me. Good luck. Sjef |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:03:51 -0800, mariusz wrote:
hi there, I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) The cranks are either Victory or Triomphe (indistinguishable -- I had a victory crank, and a friend had a triomphe, and the parts were interchangeable). Very nice, IMO; they were the "compact" cranks of the day. -- David L. Johnson __o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you _`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds, (_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca). |
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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:03:51 -0800, mariusz wrote: hi there, I have just bought this bike for 169 $. http://www.allegro.pl/item152091129_bianchi.html I`m just wondering which campagnolo group is in that bike. My guess - campagnolo victory from 1987 -1988 ? (except rear deralileur - shimano 600) The cranks are either Victory or Triomphe (indistinguishable -- I had a victory crank, and a friend had a triomphe, and the parts were interchangeable). Very nice, IMO; they were the "compact" cranks of the day. -- I believe the Victory and/or Triomphe chainring's bcd is 116mm. 52t chainrings amd 53t chainrings are still available, but anything smaller is almost impossible to find. What looks interesting in the photos are the shifters. They look like the old Campy C-Record retrofriction shifters. Otherwise, its probably Victory or Triomphe from the late 80s era. |
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