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Old June 19th 20, 03:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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As I've said elsewhere and literally forever, you will not get bicycle commuting until you get reasonable distances to commute.

It isn't as if this is a difficult thing. The San Francisco Bay Area is completely surrounded by cities but the businesses are focused in rather small areas distant from the bedroom communities. In my own town of San Leandro, this used to have an industrial area and there were four companies I worked at here within a couple of miles of my home that I have now. But the businesses other than one and two man types have moved to the industrial centers - San Francisco, the Silicon Valley centers of Milpitas, Mt. View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara etc. and some small number in San Mateo and Palo Alto/Menlo Park which is adjacent to Stanford University.

Before covid-19 the commute traffic to these locations was absolutely impossible. It is 25 miles to Palo Alto were I see my neurologist and the commute time was 1 1/2 hours. I could actually get there faster on a bicycle but only if I were willing to take my life in my hands with cars going 2x or more the speed limit every single day and the cops offering no amelioration. One cyclist I knew had a driver get mad at him and chase him off the road and up through a bamboo thicket breaking all of the bamboo down and screaming "I'll kill you". He happened to have a rear facing camera on his bike and had the entire thing on video. At the end of the thicket was the Highway Patrol station. And he went in and showed them the video only to be told, "We had to be there and personally see it."

The covid-19 BS hasn't improved things since with less traffic on the roads the cars go even faster. And they will take side roads when traveling on the freeway would be much faster. And in order to make up for the time they drive even faster.

You think that making bicycles as a healthier and saner way to commute is going to be necessary in the coming years? No way. The most dangerous drivers on the roads are Tesla drivers. "Get out of my way, I have money".

Do you think that San Francisco is going to give up their tax money from business centers? No, they will build ever larger skyscrapers, and more moronic companies will situate there regardless of crippling taxes. San Francisco is making more and more bicycle only streets but that is because that is the only way that buses can travel on the streets that cars would not allow to leave their stops. Bus drivers were always shocked that I would stop blocking the lane and allow their to leave and attempt to keep their schedules.

The other side of the Golden Gate Bridge has plenty of land and plenty of buildings to put business but they would rather commute. That way the President can live in a skyscraper apartment and pretend to be important in the scheme of things.

On this side of the Bay Bridge virtually all business has left except some small number in Alameda who will occasionally advertise for help, not even look at people like me and they go bankrupt because they can't get any technical people worthy of the name.

A couple of old bosses are interested but would put me beyond my commute limit. One perhaps is getting a new project at Lawrence Berkeley Labs and I could be interested in that. Though I don't know if some PhD candidate might not be a better choice since they are really cheap and I am really expensive. And they need the money and I don't.

The long and the short of it is that if you think that bicycle commuting is a necessity for the future (and I agree) you have to totally change corporate structure to place their facilities where people can get to them via bicycles. Not parking lots the size of Texas and 10 lane roads leading to them all in a concentrated area far distant from the people of needs must live to be able to afford housing at the rates you can afford to pay them.

As for California, as long as Nancy Pelosi, her close friends and family are running this state, business and people with skills and money will continue to leave. California has become the garbage state under Democrat leadership and that doesn't look to change as the streets become filled with homeless, the houses with three generations of illegals and pretty quick the only food available will be from MacDonalds.
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Old June 20th 20, 10:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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And yet, countless people commute by bicycle, in California and everywhere else. The cowardly will insist it can't be done, while it's happening in front of them.
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Old June 21st 20, 02:59 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
As I've said elsewhere and literally forever, you will not get bicycle commuting until you get reasonable distances to commute.


No offense intended. But that statement is not exactly a revelation. I commuted via bicycle for a few years. It made sense for me because 1. I had no other choice. And 2. It was 2 miles to work via not too heavily traveled roads.



The covid-19 BS hasn't improved things


So 120,000 DEAD Americans is Bu--Sh-- to you Trump rear end lickers? If half million died would you think its worthy of your consideration? Or maybe it would take one million for it to be even remotely serious? 3.3 million dead would be 1% of the US population. Is that enough to matter? Or is all human life trash to you Trump rear enders?
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Old June 21st 20, 11:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Chalo wrote:
And yet, countless people commute by bicycle, in California and
everywhere else. The cowardly will insist it can't be done, while it's
happening in front of them.


+1

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Old June 21st 20, 03:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 6/20/2020 10:10 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 18:59:48 -0700, wrote:

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
As I've said elsewhere and literally forever, you will not get bicycle
commuting until you get reasonable distances to commute.


No offense intended. But that statement is not exactly a revelation. I
commuted via bicycle for a few years. It made sense for me because 1.
I had no other choice. And 2. It was 2 miles to work via not too
heavily traveled roads.


Throughout my life time, there has been various reasons for comnmuting by
bicycle. These were/are;
First reason for commuting by bicycle; it was that or walk.
Second reason for commuting by bicycle; it was quicker than the multiple
public transport services.
Third reason for commuting by bicycle; it was cheaper than buying and
maintaining a car.
Fourth reason for commuting by bicycle; it is cheaper to run and maintain
than a motor vehicle.
Fifth reason that comes to mind; it can be exercise whilst commuting and
only fools drive a car and go to gyms for there "exercise". Saves time
and money.


I'll add a reason, although it's probably a detail regarding your fifth
reason: Riding is good for my mental health.

I noticed that on days I biked to work instead of drove the car or rode
the motorcycle, my attitude and energy were better all day. And
conversely, when weather was crappy and I couldn't ride for long
periods, I tended to get into a funk. A few miles on the bike generally
fixed that.


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Old June 21st 20, 08:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 6/21/2020 9:47 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/20/2020 10:10 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 18:59:48 -0700,
wrote:

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-5,
wrote:
As I've said elsewhere and literally forever, you will
not get bicycle
commuting until you get reasonable distances to commute.


No offense intended. But that statement is not exactly a
revelation. I
commuted via bicycle for a few years. It made sense for
me because 1.
I had no other choice. And 2. It was 2 miles to work
via not too
heavily traveled roads.


Throughout my life time, there has been various reasons
for comnmuting by
bicycle. These were/are;
First reason for commuting by bicycle; it was that or walk.
Second reason for commuting by bicycle; it was quicker
than the multiple
public transport services.
Third reason for commuting by bicycle; it was cheaper than
buying and
maintaining a car.
Fourth reason for commuting by bicycle; it is cheaper to
run and maintain
than a motor vehicle.
Fifth reason that comes to mind; it can be exercise whilst
commuting and
only fools drive a car and go to gyms for there
"exercise". Saves time
and money.


I'll add a reason, although it's probably a detail regarding
your fifth reason: Riding is good for my mental health.

I noticed that on days I biked to work instead of drove the
car or rode the motorcycle, my attitude and energy were
better all day. And conversely, when weather was crappy and
I couldn't ride for long periods, I tended to get into a
funk. A few miles on the bike generally fixed that.



+1

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Old June 23rd 20, 05:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:49:38 -0700, cyclintom wrote:

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 6:59:50 PM UTC-7,
wrote:
On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
As I've said elsewhere and literally forever, you will not get
bicycle commuting until you get reasonable distances to commute.


No offense intended. But that statement is not exactly a revelation.
I commuted via bicycle for a few years. It made sense for me because
1. I had no other choice. And 2. It was 2 miles to work via not too
heavily traveled roads.



The covid-19 BS hasn't improved things


So 120,000 DEAD Americans is Bu--Sh-- to you Trump rear end lickers?
If half million died would you think its worthy of your consideration?
Or maybe it would take one million for it to be even remotely serious?
3.3 million dead would be 1% of the US population. Is that enough to
matter? Or is all human life trash to you Trump rear enders?


I thought I'd gone though this with you guys but apparently not - YES,
120,000 people have died but almost entirely people on medical
assistance that were not expected to survive more than a couple of weeks
anyway.


So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week!

Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many
people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and
under who cannot be vaccinated.


Funny, Australia vacinated from 6 MONTHS and older.
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Old June 24th 20, 03:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:

So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week!


On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. It is pretty plain why you sign on anonymously. You would make your parents sick that they brought something like you into this world.

Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many
people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and
under who cannot be vaccinated.


Funny, Australia vacinated from 6 MONTHS and older.


Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. There are no tests of efficacy and they cannot even tell you if a person has died from the flu except symptomatic "guessing". They don't even require medical facilities to report deaths as seasonal flu for this reason and the actual deaths by seasonal flu are estimated to be about 3 times those reported.

But loud mouth ignorant morons like you would love to require babies vaccinated in order to kill off as many as possible.

Again, it is plain why you are an anonymous poster.
 




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