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Old June 30th 20, 10:52 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

Mr A-hole is at it again.
QUOTE:
Nick Freeman - nicknamed 'Mr Loophole' for his history of getting clients such as David Beckham and Jeremy Clarkson off the hook for motoring offences - is once again trotting out his calls for cyclists to wear high-vis jackets "stamped with a registration number" and hold compulsory insurance, this time in a magazine about rural life in Cheshire. It's safe to say it didn't go down very well on social media.

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident", and suggests that his high-vis registration tabard and insurance idea would solve the problem so cyclists can be identified (because of course, 100% of drivers are licenced and insured (link is external), Mr Freeman). His tweet describing cyclists as doing "top speed" has also caused confusion, and Freeman is yet to clarify his comments. Cheshire Life are yet to comment and have today shared the article again, saying that it "caused quite the stir over the weekend."

Over the years, Freeman has made repeated claims for cyclists and pedestrians to wear high-vis, while continuing to defend law-breaking and even killer motorists. In 2014, Freeman argued that his client Simon Martins - who ran over and killed rabbi Hyman Steinberg in Salford back in 2012 - may have avoided the collision if Mr Steinberg was wearing reflective clothing. He's also said that cyclists should be forced to use designated cycle lanes, and in 2015 urged motorists to "fight back" against cyclists using headcams to film dangerous driving.

https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...ne-2020-274983
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Old June 30th 20, 11:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

The other day my car bleeped at me to warn of an impending collision
when another driver moved into my lane. It's probably in my dashcam.
Should I report the other driver for causing my car to suffer
intolerable stress?
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Old June 30th 20, 11:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

The other day my car bleeped at me to warn of an impending collision
when another driver moved into my lane. It's probably in my dashcam.
Should I report the other driver for causing my car to suffer
intolerable stress?


These are the idiots he gets off!
QUOTE:

David Beckham 76 in a 50
Frank Lampard 86 in a 50
Joe Cole 105mph

You got them + others off lightly.
Cyclists though, very dangerous.
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Old June 30th 20, 02:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

Mr A-hole is at it again.
QUOTE:
Nick Freeman - nicknamed 'Mr Loophole' for his history of getting clients such as David Beckham and Jeremy Clarkson off the hook for motoring offences - is once again trotting out his calls for cyclists to wear high-vis jackets "stamped with a registration number" and hold compulsory insurance, this time in a magazine about rural life in Cheshire. It's safe to say it didn't go down very well on social media.

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident", and suggests that his high-vis registration tabard and insurance idea would solve the problem so cyclists can be identified (because of course, 100% of drivers are licenced and insured (link is external), Mr Freeman). His tweet describing cyclists as doing "top speed" has also caused confusion, and Freeman is yet to clarify his comments. Cheshire Life are yet to comment and have today shared the article again, saying that it "caused quite the stir over the weekend."

Over the years, Freeman has made repeated claims for cyclists and pedestrians to wear high-vis, while continuing to defend law-breaking and even killer motorists. In 2014, Freeman argued that his client Simon Martins - who ran over and killed rabbi Hyman Steinberg in Salford back in 2012 - may have avoided the collision if Mr Steinberg was wearing reflective clothing. He's also said that cyclists should be forced to use designated cycle lanes, and in 2015 urged motorists to "fight back" against cyclists using headcams to film dangerous driving.

https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...ne-2020-274983


The writer is quite right on this point: "...100% of drivers are
licenced". That is a tautology.

Anyone who hasn't got a licence to drive is just a *cyclist*.

And where is this "Nutsford" place?

Is it anywhere near Knutsford in Cheshire?

Or is it just another example of the ignorance and lack of basic
literary competence on the part of contributors to road.cc?
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Old June 30th 20, 02:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 11:30, TMS320 wrote:

On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

The other day my car bleeped at me to warn of an impending collision
when another driver moved into my lane. It's probably in my dashcam.
Should I report the other driver for causing my car to suffer
intolerable stress?


Isn't it odd how when a driver doesn't collide with a cyclist he has
"only just missed" him and must be somehow blamed for the incident?

But when a cyclist almost collides with a pedestrian (so often on a
pedestrian-only footway), that is perfectly alright and nothing for the
pesky pedestrian (or his parents) to worry about?



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Old June 30th 20, 02:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...


This is what Mr A-Hole wants :-)

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/fi...edelec-2_0.jpg

After all, they provent drivers breaking all sorts of laws, don't they?


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Old June 30th 20, 02:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...


This is what Mr A-Hole wants :-)

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/fi...edelec-2_0.jpg

After all, they prevent drivers breaking all sorts of laws, don't they?

Speeding, parking the wrong way at night, on yellow lines, on zig zags, outside schools, pavement parking, obstructing traffic by inconsiderate parking, driving while drunk, on mobile phones, with no car tax, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, illegal plates, overtaking on double lines, due care, bald tyres, faulty brakes, one eyed monsters, no rear lights, no brake lights, no indicators, fog light abuse, faulty steering, windscreen obscuration, darkly tinted windows, child seat abuse, no seatbelts, insecure load, one way street abuse, amber/red light jumping, cycle box abuse, bus lane abuse, box junction abuse, death by dangerous driving, excess smoke and noise from exhaust, duff suspension, leaking oil, cash for crash fiddles, underage child in front, lights causing glare, over weight limit, ignoring no entry signs, parking without permit, not having control of your vehicle, improper use of horn, using horn at night, no in date photo licence, no licence application after long ban, without prescribed eyewear, failing to stop for police/lollipop/zebra etc - ran out of space.

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Old June 30th 20, 02:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 14:55, Simon Mason wrote:

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:


In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:30:42 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:


In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...


This is what Mr A-Hole wants :-)

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/fi...edelec-2_0.jpg

After all, they prevent drivers breaking all sorts of laws, don't they?

Speeding, parking the wrong way at night, on yellow lines, on zig zags, outside schools, pavement parking, obstructing traffic by inconsiderate parking, driving while drunk, on mobile phones, with no car tax, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, illegal plates, overtaking on double lines, due care, bald tyres, faulty brakes, one eyed monsters, no rear lights, no brake lights, no indicators, fog light abuse, faulty steering, windscreen obscuration, darkly tinted windows, child seat abuse, no seatbelts, insecure load, one way street abuse, amber/red light jumping, cycle box abuse, bus lane abuse, box junction abuse, death by dangerous driving, excess smoke and noise from exhaust, duff suspension, leaking oil, cash for crash fiddles, underage child in front, lights causing glare, over weight limit, ignoring no entry signs, parking without permit, not having control of your vehicle, improper use of horn, using horn at night, no in date photo licence, no licence application after long ban, without prescribed eyewear, failing to stop for police/lollipop/zebra etc - ran out of space.


Why do you commit those offences?

Have you no sense of the rights of others?
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Old June 30th 20, 11:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 14:49, JNugent wrote:
On 30/06/2020 11:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",


"almost hit"...

The other day my car bleeped at me to warn of an impending collision
when another driver moved into my lane. It's probably in my dashcam.
Should I report the other driver for causing my car to suffer
intolerable stress?


Isn't it odd how when a driver doesn't collide with a cyclist he has
"only just missed" him and must be somehow blamed for the incident?


No.

But when a cyclist almost collides with a pedestrian (so often on a
pedestrian-only footway), that is perfectly alright and nothing for the
pesky pedestrian (or his parents) to worry about?


Pedestrians are pesky? Well, it's good of you to finally admit to being
Mr Toad. Parp parp.
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Old July 1st 20, 12:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default 'Mr Loophole' lawyer is back with another anti-cycling rant

On 30/06/2020 23:04, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 14:49, JNugent wrote:
On 30/06/2020 11:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/2020 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

In the article, Nutsford resident Freeman claims he was out on a
walk with a friend's young son, when the boy was almost hit by a
cyclist. He says this "was no isolated incident",

"almost hit"...

The other day my car bleeped at me to warn of an impending collision
when another driver moved into my lane. It's probably in my dashcam.
Should I report the other driver for causing my car to suffer
intolerable stress?


Isn't it odd how when a driver doesn't collide with a cyclist he has
"only just missed" him and must be somehow blamed for the incident?


No.

But when a cyclist almost collides with a pedestrian (so often on a
pedestrian-only footway), that is perfectly alright and nothing for
the pesky pedestrian (or his parents) to worry about?


Pedestrians are pesky? Well, it's good of you to finally admit to being
Mr Toad. Parp parp.


"Pesky" is how cyclists see pedestrians.

As a pedestrian, it's hardly likely to be be how I see them.

HTH (and it's rather obvious that you *do* need help in understanding
basic facts).

 




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