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Underwear under tights?
I bought some tights w/out padding . Is underwear usually worn underneath (I
know not to wear cotton) these? What about if they have padding? Where can I get a good deal on underwear? Thanks |
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"Chris C" wrote in message ... I bought some tights w/out padding . Is underwear usually worn underneath (I know not to wear cotton) these? What about if they have padding? Where can I get a good deal on underwear? Thanks If you wear padded anything, the pad goes next to the skin. Usually under plain tights you'd wear bike shorts. Wear underwear only under street clothes. RichC |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:44:46 -0400, "Rich Clark"
wrote: "Chris C" wrote in message ... I bought some tights w/out padding . Is underwear usually worn underneath (I know not to wear cotton) these? What about if they have padding? Where can I get a good deal on underwear? Thanks If you wear padded anything, the pad goes next to the skin. Usually under plain tights you'd wear bike shorts. Wear underwear only under street clothes. RichC Just to clarify. When you wear bike shorts with real chamois, you usually apply a substance called 'chamois cream' to this material, and then you put on the bike shorts. It's completely obvious that you don't wear underwear in this case, b/c you want contact with the cream and the chamois - just like a join in a machine where you're matching dissimilar materials and forming a compatible joint. Here the 'join' is between your sit bones and the receiving platform, or the saddle, and is mediated by a fleshy posterior on the chamois, all over a lycra and leather sandwich. (Yummy!) ;-D The friction of moving around on the saddle is then greatly reduced by the cream, and saddle sores are less likely to prosper. You've lubed the join just like you would the bearings in your BB. If you're not riding long distances, a 'fake chamois' bike short may be of use to you in a similar way, but minus the advanced saddle-sore protection. Many recreational riders wear 'fake chamois' and don't even realize that Lance slathers his tushie with gobs of this "stuff" like cold cream, and then puts on the bike shorts - every morning. You can imagine the uh, getting-used-to this 'cold ointment on a furry pad' takes. In the Chronicles, you see him putting it on, and gasping humorously. Imagine doing that every morning at 6 am. In that case of only wearing shorts with 'fake chamois', it probably doesn't matter if you're wearing underwear or not. That pad is just for padding and performs little if any of the original friction reducing function. Riding most distances under 25 miles will not give you saddle sores unless you forget basic hygiene. Some riders may put vaseline on their posterior, sparingly and still wear the fake chamois from what I understand. ymmv HTH, -B Note: I'm just a newbie, so some of the above may be totally wrong. For the "real stuff", ask one of the regulars who does this... |
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Chris C wrote:
I bought some tights w/out padding . Is underwear usually worn underneath (I know not to wear cotton) these? What about if they have padding? Where can I get a good deal on underwear? Thanks Most people just wear regular bike shorts underneath the tights. However, bike shops DO sell padded "liners" (like tight boxer briefs) that would also work; pads are pretty thin, though. Bill "shop around" S. |
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"Badger_South" wrote:
In that case of only wearing shorts with 'fake chamois', it probably doesn't matter if you're wearing underwear or not. That pad is just for padding and performs little if any of the original friction reducing function. Riding most distances under 25 miles will not give you saddle sores unless you forget basic hygiene. Disagree. You shouldn't wear underwear when wearing any padded shorts. And having used both traditional chamois and what you call "fake," I'll take the "fake" stuff any day. After a few washings the genuine chamois would dry out, become stiff, and crack. The imitation chamois is more comfortable and lasts much longer. It is far superior, just as modern jersey fabrics are superior to wool. As to the OPs question about tights, you should wear padded cycling shorts (and nothing else) under them. Art Harris |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:52:19 GMT, "Arthur Harris" wrote:
"Badger_South" wrote: In that case of only wearing shorts with 'fake chamois', it probably doesn't matter if you're wearing underwear or not. That pad is just for padding and performs little if any of the original friction reducing function. Riding most distances under 25 miles will not give you saddle sores unless you forget basic hygiene. Disagree. You shouldn't wear underwear when wearing any padded shorts. Not really anything to disagree with, Art, I bow to your greater experience. Note I said 'probably doesn't matter', but then I thought, well, you don't want a problem with the seams in the underwear. But do you think that many casual to intermediate female cyclists wear bike shorts and nothing else? Guys, no problem. I just can't picture it, though some girls don't like underwear at all I understand. And having used both traditional chamois and what you call "fake," I'll take the "fake" stuff any day. After a few washings the genuine chamois would dry out, become stiff, and crack. The imitation chamois is more comfortable and lasts much longer. It is far superior, just as modern jersey fabrics are superior to wool. Hmm, so you're saying you use chamois cream on the imitation chamois? Now there are some shorts where the padding doesn't even look like chamois, it's white and has gel in it. I've got another pair with a brown imitation chamois, and I use some desitin, or some vaseline some times, but I normally don't ride long enough yet to get saddle sores. As to the OPs question about tights, you should wear padded cycling shorts (and nothing else) under them. Some ppl say tights with padding and cycling shorts, unpadded over them, iirc. (j/k) And just don't fall down 20 miles from home and tear your tights and/or shorts. You'll be riding home with lots of, uh ventilation. ;-D Thanks, Art. -B |
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Chris C wrote:
I bought some tights w/out padding . Is underwear usually worn underneath (I know not to wear cotton) these? What about if they have padding? Where can I get a good deal on underwear? Thanks I wear cycling shorts under them to gain the benifit of the pading of the cycling shorts. It is there to conform to your body to keep evrything comfortable and sadle sore free RAy |
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"Rich Clark" wrote in message ...
Wear underwear only under street clothes. RichC Why? Is underwear mandatory? |
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"Badger_South" wrote:
Hmm, so you're saying you use chamois cream on the imitation chamois? Now there are some shorts where the padding doesn't even look like chamois, it's white and has gel in it. I've got another pair with a brown imitation chamois, and I use some desitin, or some vaseline some times, but I normally don't ride long enough yet to get saddle sores. The chamois cream of old was mainly to keep the "real" chamois from drying out. Some folks apply various ointments to their posterior with either type of chamois to avoid irritation. I use a synthetic chamois without any creames or ointments, and haven't had any problems even on centuries. Perhaps TdF riders doing 100 miles a day for three weeks need the special ointments. As to the OPs question about tights, you should wear padded cycling shorts (and nothing else) under them. Some ppl say tights with padding and cycling shorts, unpadded over them, iirc. (j/k) The nice thing about unpadded tights over padded shorts is that if the weather warms up, you can simply remore the tights. Art Harris |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:07:21 GMT, "Arthur Harris" wrote:
"Badger_South" wrote: Hmm, so you're saying you use chamois cream on the imitation chamois? Now there are some shorts where the padding doesn't even look like chamois, it's white and has gel in it. I've got another pair with a brown imitation chamois, and I use some desitin, or some vaseline some times, but I normally don't ride long enough yet to get saddle sores. The chamois cream of old was mainly to keep the "real" chamois from drying out. Some folks apply various ointments to their posterior with either type of chamois to avoid irritation. I use a synthetic chamois without any creames or ointments, and haven't had any problems even on centuries. Perhaps TdF riders doing 100 miles a day for three weeks need the special ointments. OK, well, sorry to have brought this up again, b/c I believe there was just a 'chamois' thread and tights over or under shorts thread only a couple months ago. But it's appreciated. Since there seem to be so many types of pad out there, I'll check out a pair of top of the line shorts and see what that pad looks like. Maybe Pearl Izumis. I have a Performance house brand. As to the OPs question about tights, you should wear padded cycling shorts (and nothing else) under them. Some ppl say tights with padding and cycling shorts, unpadded over them, iirc. (j/k) The nice thing about unpadded tights over padded shorts is that if the weather warms up, you can simply remore the tights. Art Harris Of course, and thus best to have a pair that have zippers on the bottoms to allow getting over your shoes, if I'm not mistaken. Thanks again! ;-) -B |
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