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Why does low pressure cost mileage?



 
 
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Old February 19th 12, 05:46 AM posted to sci.physics,rec.autos.tech,rec.bicycles.tech
Alan Baker
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

In article
,
RichD wrote:

Low air pressure in tires retards fuel milege, but why?

The obvious answer is, greater friction. But even though
the tire is flatter, still it rolls, there's no relative movement
between the pavement and tire, hence no sliding friction.

So where and how do the losses occur?

--
Rich


Flexing the rubber.

More flex, more energy lost.

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Old February 20th 12, 04:57 AM posted to sci.physics,rec.autos.tech,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

On Feb 19, 9:51*pm, jim beam wrote:
On 02/19/2012 03:44 PM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:





Alan *wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article
,
* *wrote:


Low air pressure in tires retards fuel milege, but why?


The obvious answer is, greater friction. *But even though
the tire is flatter, still it rolls, there's no relative movement
between the pavement and tire, *hence no sliding friction.


So where and how do the losses occur?


--
Rich


Flexing the rubber.


More flex, more energy lost.


no one has stated the largest one yet!!!! *the lower the pressure the
smaller the actuall dia of the rotating tire, lowering the overall ratio,
less distance traveled per rev. less milage. * KB


bull. *tire size has no more to do with mileage than transmission
gearing does - some cars use /more/ gas in overdrive than they do the
next gear down.

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Old February 20th 12, 06:17 AM posted to sci.physics,rec.autos.tech,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

On Feb 20, 4:51*am, jim beam wrote:
On 02/19/2012 03:44 PM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:









Alan *wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article
,
* *wrote:


Low air pressure in tires retards fuel milege, but why?


The obvious answer is, greater friction. *But even though
the tire is flatter, still it rolls, there's no relative movement
between the pavement and tire, *hence no sliding friction.


So where and how do the losses occur?


--
Rich


Flexing the rubber.


More flex, more energy lost.


no one has stated the largest one yet!!!! *the lower the pressure the
smaller the actuall dia of the rotating tire, lowering the overall ratio,
less distance traveled per rev. less milage. * KB


bull. *tire size has no more to do with mileage than transmission
gearing does - some cars use /more/ gas in overdrive than they do the
next gear down.

--
nomina rutrum rutrum


cor,isit that time agaim?
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Old February 20th 12, 06:26 AM posted to sci.physics,rec.autos.tech,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

On Feb 20, 4:51*am, jim beam wrote:
On 02/19/2012 03:44 PM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:









Alan *wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article
,
* *wrote:


Low air pressure in tires retards fuel milege, but why?


The obvious answer is, greater friction. *But even though
the tire is flatter, still it rolls, there's no relative movement
between the pavement and tire, *hence no sliding friction.


So where and how do the losses occur?


--
Rich


Flexing the rubber.


More flex, more energy lost.


no one has stated the largest one yet!!!! *the lower the pressure the
smaller the actuall dia of the rotating tire, lowering the overall ratio,
less distance traveled per rev. less milage. * KB


bull. *tire size has no more to do with mileage than transmission
gearing does - some cars use /more/ gas in overdrive than they do the
next gear down.


You might like to use a synthetic gearbox oil and engine oil to
correct that problem.


BTW I couldn't be arsed answering such an obviously erroneous
statement and thought it'd be better left to some dick to make a
pointless argument Youv'e saved the bother of embarresment of the
innocent by jumping in wellies first wearing a blancmange hat.

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Old February 21st 12, 03:38 AM posted to sci.physics,rec.autos.tech,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

On Feb 20, 2:29 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 02/20/2012 04:35 PM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:



jim wrote :


On 02/19/2012 03:44 PM, Kevin Bottorff wrote:
Alan wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article
,
wrote:


Low air pressure in tires retards fuel milege, but why?


The obvious answer is, greater friction. But even though
the tire is flatter, still it rolls, there's no relative movement
between the pavement and tire, hence no sliding friction.


So where and how do the losses occur?


--
Rich


Flexing the rubber.


More flex, more energy lost.


no one has stated the largest one yet!!!! the lower the pressure the
smaller the actuall dia of the rotating tire, lowering the overall
ratio, less distance traveled per rev. less milage. KB


bull. tire size has no more to do with mileage than transmission
gearing does - some cars use /more/ gas in overdrive than they do the
next gear down.


yea the select few that are not enginered correctly, but for most it is
entirely correct, KB


Depends on the speed and grade, not whether the car is "engineered
correctly."


The OP asks why lower tire pressure takes more energy, and now you're
arguing about hills?
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Old February 21st 12, 11:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why does low pressure cost mileage?

On 2012-02-21 03:38:32 +0000, Dan O said:

The OP asks why lower tire pressure takes more energy, and now you're
arguing about hills?


Welcome to usenet...

 




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