Typical weight of a dual suspension bike

I'm having a hard time comparing dual suspension bikes in the sub
$1500 range. One of the key factors for me is weight, but many
brouchers dont mention the weight.

Whats the typical weight of a dually, and what would be too much.

On Feb 15, 10:18 am, wrote:
I'm having a hard time comparing dual suspension bikes in the sub
$1500 range. One of the key factors for me is weight, but many
brouchers dont mention the weight.

At $1500, you'll be buying a brick. 15kg+, I'd guess, and it'll be a
pogobike.
What do you want the dualy for? XC? 'all mountain'? downhill? At
that price, you're *much* better off with a hardtail.

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I'm having a hard time comparing dual suspension bikes in the sub
$1500 range. One of the key factors for me is weight, but many
brouchers dont mention the weight.

Whats the typical weight of a dually, and what would be too much.

As said above, if you've got $1500 you're not going to get a proper
dual suspension bike. I can't think of a reputable brand that actually
sells any that cheap.

Take http://www.vicmtb.com/store/07bikes/...reflexfx35.php for an
example. 14.5kg, and it'll set you back $1800. For the same money
you'll get a much lighter hardtail with better quality components -
like http://www.vicmtb.com/store/07bikes/scott/scale50.php.

Scott make duallies that come in under 10kg
(http://www.scottusa.com/category.php?UID=645), but you can't even buy
them in AU. If you could I would expect the price to be around $10 000.


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SomeGuy

Wrote:
I'm having a hard time comparing dual suspension bikes in the sub
$1500 range. One of the key factors for me is weight, but many
brouchers dont mention the weight.

Whats the typical weight of a dually, and what would be too much.


As other have said, $1500 won't get you much dual suspention bike, or
rather too much weight & too little quality.

As posted above the Scott ReflexFX35 is ~$1800 & 14.5kg. It will cost
an extra $800 to loose each Kg below that.

I wouldn't be shopping for a MTB dualy with less than double your
budget.


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Bikesoiler

On Feb 15, 10:18 am, wrote:
I'm having a hard time comparing dual suspension bikes in the sub
$1500 range. One of the key factors for me is weight, but many
brouchers dont mention the weight.

Whats the typical weight of a dually, and what would be too much.

It depends on what type of duallie you want to get (XC, All Mountain
or Downhill).

You won't find a decent duallie for less than $1500. The last time I
looked, the entry level Giant Trance (2 or 3?) cost a bit more than
$2k. You are better off getting a hardtail like the Giant XTC3 for
that amount of money.

FWIW, my first gen Specialized Epic weighs in at a porky 13.9 kilos.

Fair points. But I'm not looking to compete in the next MTB world
champs. I'm looking to get a replacement for my 10 year old hard-tail
which finally wore out its welcome on the Andersons fire trail a few
weeks back. That was only a $400 bike back then and the quality of
parts have been high enough for my usage.

I get the feeling that sub 15kg is a good aim for a dually ?

Not sure what the weights are for these, but what are peoples opinions
on:
- Mongoose Wing Super ($1100)
- Appollo Vanquish ($700)
- Learsport (top model dually) ($700)

On Feb 15, 1:56 pm, wrote:
Fair points. But I'm not looking to compete in the next MTB world
champs. I'm looking to get a replacement for my 10 year old hard-tail
which finally wore out its welcome on the Andersons fire trail a few
weeks back. That was only a $400 bike back then and the quality of
parts have been high enough for my usage.

I get the feeling that sub 15kg is a good aim for a dually ?

It's about a lot more than weight, it's about how well the thing
rides, how well you can pedal it etc - cheap dualies get called
pogobikes for a reason and it's not a compliment.

Not sure what the weights are for these, but what are peoples opinions
on:
- Mongoose Wing Super ($1100)
- Appollo Vanquish ($700)
- Learsport (top model dually) ($700)

Forget anyone's opinion, go ride them. If a bikeshop won't let you
ride it, don't buy it. I can suggest though, for that sort of money,
you will most likely be sorely disappointed by the ride you get, and
you'll stick with a hardtail. But, don't take my word for it, go
testriding, then you'll understand.

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I get the feeling that sub 15kg is a good aim for a dually ?

For an XC duallie, 12kg is a good aim. Under 13kg is alright, but I
wouldn't ride anything heavier than that.

Why is it that you want a squishy bike? With the budget you have, I
strongly believe you will be happier riding a hardtail.


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SomeGuy

On Feb 15, 10:20 pm, SomeGuy SomeGuy.2m1...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote:
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I get the feeling that sub 15kg is a good aim for a dually ?

For an XC duallie, 12kg is a good aim. Under 13kg is alright, but I
wouldn't ride anything heavier than that.


Hurrah! I can blame my bike for my slowness on the single track.

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Fair points. But I'm not looking to compete in the next MTB world
champs. I'm looking to get a replacement for my 10 year old hard-tail
which finally wore out its welcome on the Andersons fire trail a few
weeks back. That was only a $400 bike back then and the quality of
parts have been high enough for my usage.

I get the feeling that sub 15kg is a good aim for a dually ?

Not sure what the weights are for these, but what are peoples opinions
on:
- Mongoose Wing Super ($1100)
- Appollo Vanquish ($700)
- Learsport (top model dually) ($700)

In my shop I've had the first two. I don't carry Learsport. My comments:
Mongoose Wing Super - Nope. Pogo stick on two wheels, heavy and feels odd.
Too hard to climb with and seems unstable going down.
Apollo Vanquish - BIG nope! I've had two returns that have broken at the
left rear dropout. Apollo has been fine with warranty but one bike (which
I'll be returning to Apollo today, swapping it for a couple of kid's bikes)
is the second broken by the same customer (so that's three returns all up).
To be fair, the Apollo does have a sticker warning that it's not suitable
for off-road use.

Both these models came with the shop when I bought it in November (JET
CYCLES KELMSCOTT - MENTION THIS NEWSGROUP TO GET A DISCOUNT!! - there's my
plug! :-P ) I won't be replacing them. I could have sold my stock several
times but I've advised potential buyers not to consider these bikes if they
want to go off-road. I prefer to sell them to someone who just wants a
shopping bike or school bike and are clear on the limits of the bike.

Really (and this is what I tell customers), if you're going to ride trails
these bikes are capable of handling, you don't need a dual suspension.
Trails that are technical enough to justify a dually will kill bikes at the
level at which you're looking. Buy a semi-decent hardtail (Giant Thermo 1 is
selling well for me, as is the Giant Talon). Stick a decent suspension
seatpost on it if you need a bit of extra cush.

My shop caters mainly to the mid-range/casual rider. I won't be carrying
duallies once these things go. I'd rather have no duallies than bad ones. In
my opinion (which was the same before I bought my shop), a shop which tells
you (or agrees with you) that a dually of that level is good for riding
trails lacks integrity. I'd shop elsewhere.

If you're determined to buy a cheap dually, please buy it from someone who
doesn't want to sell it to you. At least you're likely to get honest service
when (not if) you break it.

My 2c worth...

me