LETTER - Southampton's transport plan will benefit everyone

On 29/06/2020 07:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 28/06/2020 15:29, JNugent wrote:
On 28/06/2020 11:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 26/06/2020 10:57, JNugent wrote:
On 25/06/2020 14:05, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: And at around 12mph I have time to brake for pedestrians
that seem to just ignore you on those left hand turns ENDQUOTE

A clear indication that the writer does not know the law
concerning turning traffic and pedestrians...

...but knows the overriding directive not to run them over.

Frightening pedestrians by riding straight at them or remonstrating
with them when they have the right of way (but the cyclist at best
appears not to know that) is unacceptable. I'm sure you will agree.
At least, I hope you will.

You're right. It is not acceptable to frighten pedestrians by driving
one and a half tonnes or more at them.

It's not a law. #170 Take extra care at junctions. You should ...
give way.

It's not difficult to notice most drivers don't have a clue.

Even if that were true (it isn't), it wouild not be relevant.

Don't be stupid.

The "big boys do it" defence is not valid.

Then you admit the big boys do it. Then big boys shouldn't point their
finger.

Which part of "even if it were true" were you unable to understand?

A few months ago, I was behind another cyclist that I knew and we
were about to turn left. There was a pedestrian on the pavement and
he (the cyclist) slowed to let the pedestrian pass.

I thought to myself "well done, someone that understands the
rules". Moments later he spoke to me saying that he slowed down
because the pedestrian didn't seem to be paying attention.

I told him that he was supposed to give way when turning. He
genuinely thought he had been the hero.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

You didn't make a point.

I had already made it.

The original (cyclist) writer quoted by Simon plainly did not know that
he is obliged, when turning from one street into another, to give way to
pedestrians already dcrossing the street into which he is turning.

QUOTE: And at around 12mph I have time to brake for pedestrians that
seem to just ignore you on those left hand turns
ENDQUOTE

As I said at the beginning: "A clear indication that the writer does not
know the law concerning turning traffic and pedestrians...".

But he is a cyclist. As we are all aware, those parts of the Highway
Code and the Road Traffic Acts that cyclists actually do know they just
ignore anyway.