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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
On 2015-06-10 6:34 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:07:38 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2015-06-08 6:30 PM, John B. wrote: On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:46:24 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2015-06-07 5:32 PM, John B. wrote: [...] ... sometime later I bought an aluminum bike to keep on the boat and it had seven speeds and a chain which I oiled infrequently with the results that the chain became a solid (rusty) contrivance and the bike wouldn't go any more. Later I bought another aluminum bike that had a nine speed system with a chain and I oiled the chain fervently with the results that my right leg used to have oil spots on it. So I have learned that, apparently, oiling chains is the secret :-) I have mine on a very rigid and thorough maintenance schedule. The MTB chain gets cleaned and oiled after every ride. Most of my MTB rides are 30-40 miles. If I push it past 50 miles the chain noise becomes horrid. Just as an aside, professional riders, say Tour de France, start the race with a new chain and change chains, perhaps 2 or three times in 2,000 miles :-) Unfortunately I do not have a sponsor and a support team :-) Well, yes there is that. On the other hand winning the Tour is worth something like 2 - 4 million a year in salary and even more in sponsorships. Lance Armstrong was said to be worth 125 million dollars. But I can't win the tour on my mountain bike :-) And now I'm too friggin' old for that anyhow. A new chain costs, what? I see Shimano Ultegra chains offered for sale at less than $20.00 :-) That one needs to be riveted. I prefer the kind that can be opened in an emergency like when stuff got seriously bent. The KMC X10.93 is around $25 plus tax. My MTB costs around 20c/mile as it is (and only after finding better deals on tires) so I don't want to unnecessarily jack that up again. I also do not think that it is environmentally cool to toss a chain every 600-1000 miles. To some extent my MTB is also used for errands and even biz travel. The tax authorities don't even allow a standard mileage for bicycles which is what I call discrimination against cyclists. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
That one needs to be riveted. I prefer the kind that can be opened in an emergency like when stuff got seriously bent. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Then use a quick-link instead of the Shimano pin. Cheers |
#114
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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
On 2015-06-11 2:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: That one needs to be riveted. I prefer the kind that can be opened in an emergency like when stuff got seriously bent. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Then use a quick-link instead of the Shimano pin. That wipes out the cost advantage. The link for the KMC comes with the chain, no need to buy. And yes, one can open those "one-time links" in the field with the same kind of tools that the Neanderthals had (a small rock plus a piece of Manazanita). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 2015-06-11 2:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: That one needs to be riveted. I prefer the kind that can be opened in an emergency like when stuff got seriously bent. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Then use a quick-link instead of the Shimano pin. That wipes out the cost advantage. The link for the KMC comes with the chain, no need to buy. And yes, one can open those "one-time links" in the field with the same kind of tools that the Neanderthals had (a small rock plus a piece of Manazanita). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ eze Joerg. I've never heard of anyone that has so much trouble with so much of their equipment. Many MTB riders use quick links on the trails. They're not virtually impossible to reopen and/or reuse if you buy the right reuseable one. Cheers |
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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
GRIND a small vise-grip into a link holding shape kinda like a curved bird beak...maybe photo.
J should visit 2-3 Enduro events, absorb. I'm sure you're welcome.. |
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Trek Emonda / Gravel & Rail Trail
On 2015-06-11 4:06 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2015-06-11 2:20 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: That one needs to be riveted. I prefer the kind that can be opened in an emergency like when stuff got seriously bent. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Then use a quick-link instead of the Shimano pin. That wipes out the cost advantage. The link for the KMC comes with the chain, no need to buy. And yes, one can open those "one-time links" in the field with the same kind of tools that the Neanderthals had (a small rock plus a piece of Manazanita). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ eze Joerg. I've never heard of anyone that has so much trouble with so much of their equipment. Many MTB riders use quick links on the trails. They're not virtually impossible to reopen and/or reuse if you buy the right reuseable one. I never had trouble with the chain but have helped others who did. Having a removable link is a great help if someone went through a major chain suck and mangled it. But you do not have to buy the $5-7 removable links because KMC chains already come with a decent chain link (it's usually included with the chain). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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