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Road deaths fall from 72 to 27, as 25,000 caught speeding



 
 
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Old March 30th 12, 06:37 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_10_]
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Default Road deaths fall from 72 to 27, as 25,000 caught speeding

On Mar 29, 5:20*pm, M Wicks wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:28*pm, Simon Mason wrote:

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ALMOST 25,000 drivers have been caught speeding on Hull and East
Riding roads in 12 months – 1,000 more than in the previous year.


Disgusting that so many have broken the law. I cannot understand those
who complain about speed cameras. If you don't exceed the speed limit
then you won't get caught - why do some seem to find that so difficult
to grasp? All this nonsense about cameras making money and all the
rest is just maniac drivers who want to speed and don't like it when
they're caught.

Just don't speed, and you'll never get a speeding ticket, and make
your driving a lot safer as well. I really don't understand why there
is so much fuss made about this issue. I note that those who whinge
about being caught speeding are often the same people who claim that
criminals are not punished hard enough - don't they see how
hypocritical they're being? The whole point about laws is that you
can't pick and choose which ones to obey.

As more cameras are installed, road deaths will of course continue to
fall. And if speeders' money is used to give us more cameras then what
exactly is the problem? Seems like a pretty good system to me,
especially when there is so little public money available in general.

I agree. The problem though as I see it is that the punishment doesn't
fit the crime. Drivers who speed put lives in extra danger and should
be punished accordingly, preferably with a mandatory 5 year driving
ban and a 1000 pound fine.

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Old March 30th 12, 04:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
M Wicks
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Default Road deaths fall from 72 to 27, as 25,000 caught speeding

On Mar 30, 6:37*am, Doug wrote:
On Mar 29, 5:20*pm, M Wicks wrote:







On Mar 29, 4:28*pm, Simon Mason wrote:


QUOTE:


ALMOST 25,000 drivers have been caught speeding on Hull and East
Riding roads in 12 months – 1,000 more than in the previous year.


Disgusting that so many have broken the law. I cannot understand those
who complain about speed cameras. If you don't exceed the speed limit
then you won't get caught - why do some seem to find that so difficult
to grasp? All this nonsense about cameras making money and all the
rest is just maniac drivers who want to speed and don't like it when
they're caught.


Just don't speed, and you'll never get a speeding ticket, and make
your driving a lot safer as well. I really don't understand why there
is so much fuss made about this issue. I note that those who whinge
about being caught speeding are often the same people who claim that
criminals are not punished hard enough - don't they see how
hypocritical they're being? The whole point about laws is that you
can't pick and choose which ones to obey.


As more cameras are installed, road deaths will of course continue to
fall. And if speeders' money is used to give us more cameras then what
exactly is the problem? Seems like a pretty good system to me,
especially when there is so little public money available in general.


I agree. The problem though as I see it is that the punishment doesn't
fit the crime. Drivers who speed put lives in extra danger and should
be punished accordingly, preferably with a mandatory 5 year driving
ban and a 1000 pound fine.


That sounds tough but fair. Jail should also be considered if the
limit is exceeded by more than 20mph, particularly in built-up areas.
The message has to get through that speeding is as unacceptable as
drink-driving. I believe that it's been shown to be /more/ dangerous
in some cases?

If we implemented instant bans for speeding, then set up hidden checks
at strategic points (e.g. where 30mph limits change to 60mph, and on
motorways), we would catch a large number of people speeding, they
would all get immediate bans, and they would whinge so much about it
that absolutely everyone would soon hear about it. The deterrent value
would be huge. Everyone would soon get the message that speeding is /
always/ completely and utterly unacceptable, even if it's 'only' by a
'bit' just before the speed limit changes. Once everyone realised that
even 'slight' speeding would have a good chance of getting them a ban,
then hey presto, speeding would stop overnight, and road deaths would
plummet. Those who try to claim otherwise are denying simple physics,
i.e. that kinetic energy is proportional to the square of velocity,
just so that they can drive as fast as they like. Unbelievable
selfishness.

No sensible person can deny that if all speeding stopped, then that
would be a major victory, and the roads would be far, far safer. So
the only real question is how to achieve that. I believe that the
above way would be practical, cheap, and very effective. Those who got
banned would only have themselves to blame. You need to avoid speeding
to pass the driving test, so every qualified driver is capable of it
if the will is there. And the will most certainly should be there.

A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.


Possibly a bit strong, but I see what you mean. It's inescapable that
virtually all road deaths involve motor vehicles. Roll on
teleportation!
 




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