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  #21  
Old June 30th 17, 09:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Tony Dragon
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On 30-Jun-17 1:23 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:55:22 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 29-Jun-17 9:14 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:04:50 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 21:00, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).

One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.

If you believe that that (rather than the existence of two
carriageways)
is what defines a dual carriageway, it will be impossible to convince
you otherwise.

I've never been told what one is, just like I've never been told how you
define a dog. I've just seen them.

How the pigs expect people to know what the definition is I don't know.
Why not put up a speed limit sign? For that matter why do we have the
grey bar for 60mph? That isn't helpful for foreigners. In France every
limit is a red circle sign with a number.

So if you define it as SEPERATE carriageways, as in grass or barrier
between, why is this a 40 limit?
https://goo.gl/maps/ziedcsH5KtL2


Because that part of the road ha a 40 limit.


If we went back to the way it used to be - 30 in a built up area, 60 on
a country road, 70 on a motorway, people would know what ****ing speed
the pigs want us to go at. Instead we spend all our time looking for
speed limit signs instead of concentrating on the road.


So the speed limit signs along the road did not give you a clue?

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Old June 30th 17, 11:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:00:45 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.


You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).


One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.


https://tinyurl.com/y9gcm44s

Dual or single?
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Old June 30th 17, 12:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 30/06/2017 11:30, wrote:
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:00:45 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).


One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.


https://tinyurl.com/y9gcm44s

Dual or single?


And another (Kit's Coty, Bluebell Hill, Kent).

Dual or single carriageway?
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Old June 30th 17, 12:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 30/06/2017 12:19, JNugent wrote:
On 30/06/2017 11:30, wrote:
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:00:45 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).

One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.


https://tinyurl.com/y9gcm44s

Dual or single?


And another (Kit's Coty, Bluebell Hill, Kent).

Dual or single carriageway?


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Old June 30th 17, 01:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:34:38 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 30-Jun-17 1:23 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:53:47 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 29-Jun-17 9:00 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).

One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.


Rubbish


Dual means two lanes.


Dual on its own does not mean that.


Dual carriageway means two carriageways.


All roads have two carriageways, unless it's a single track with passing places in the highlands, or some dumbass builder makes a new housing estate without room to pass cars coming the other way.

The question is, does a line seperate them enough to be called dual? Or do you want a patch of grass? Or a barrier? It's subjective.

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Old June 30th 17, 01:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:36:06 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 30-Jun-17 1:24 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:52:33 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 29-Jun-17 6:47 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

There is only one carriageway, there is not solid division.


What a pedantic distinction. Would you call 2 feet of grass a solid
division?


Yes

Does it have to have a barrier?

No


That's illogical. I would have accepted barrier, or nothing, but how does a bit of grass help?


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Old June 30th 17, 01:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:45:11 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 30-Jun-17 1:23 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:55:22 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 29-Jun-17 9:14 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:04:50 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 21:00, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:40:19 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 29/06/2017 18:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Who thinks this is a 60 limit and who thinks it's 70?
https://goo.gl/maps/6wX2K83VkJM2
I'd say it's a dual carriageway this side, so 70 this way and 60 the
other way.

You are free to say what you like.

That's a single-carriageway. If it is subject to UK jurisdiction the
maximum speed is 60 either way (or less).

One side has two lanes, so it's a dual carriageway.

If you believe that that (rather than the existence of two
carriageways)
is what defines a dual carriageway, it will be impossible to convince
you otherwise.

I've never been told what one is, just like I've never been told how you
define a dog. I've just seen them.

How the pigs expect people to know what the definition is I don't know.
Why not put up a speed limit sign? For that matter why do we have the
grey bar for 60mph? That isn't helpful for foreigners. In France every
limit is a red circle sign with a number.

So if you define it as SEPERATE carriageways, as in grass or barrier
between, why is this a 40 limit?
https://goo.gl/maps/ziedcsH5KtL2


Because that part of the road ha a 40 limit.


If we went back to the way it used to be - 30 in a built up area, 60 on
a country road, 70 on a motorway, people would know what ****ing speed
the pigs want us to go at. Instead we spend all our time looking for
speed limit signs instead of concentrating on the road.


So the speed limit signs along the road did not give you a clue?


What part of "instead we spend all our time looking for speed limit signs instead of concentrating on the road" didn't you understand?

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Old June 30th 17, 01:42 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:20:43 +0100, JNugent wrote:

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The limit on that road is whatever speed you can cycle at; HTH.

As people keep remind us, this is a cycling NG. Please argue with silly boy Sword about dual carriageways in the car NG.

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Old June 30th 17, 01:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 30/06/2017 13:42, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:20:43 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

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The limit on that road is whatever speed you can cycle at; HTH.

As people keep remind us, this is a cycling NG. Please argue with silly
boy Sword about dual carriageways in the car NG.


I was not making a point about speed limits. I was supporting the poster
who had posted a (similar) picture of another dual one-lane carriageway.
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Old June 30th 17, 01:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:38:43 +0100
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:34:38 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:
Dual carriageway means two carriageways.


All roads have two carriageways, unless it's a single track with passing
places in the highlands, or some dumbass builder makes a new housing estate
without room to pass cars coming the other way.


No, the "carraigeway" is the entire strip of tarmac you're driving on. It can
be 1 way or 2 way. If you have a dual carraigeway its 2 strips of tarmac
seperated by a divider and each strip can have 1 or more lanes.

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