Heras suspended

Jason Spaceman wrote:
Roberto Heras has been suspended by Liberty Seguros after a positive A sample
EPO test --- http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ov05/nov08news


Yawn.
http://groups.google.co.nz/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/9222e3b330027ceb/80b111873d61bea3?lnk=st&q=group:rec.bicycles.racin g+Fleming+bull****&rnum=9&hl=en#80b111873d61bea3

Bill C wrote:
And once again it became public through leaks before the B sample had
been tested. Once again we've got s preliminary result, a trial in the
court of public opinion, and a damaged reputation and earning capacity.
Not even going into the questions about the test itself, once again we
have a confidentiality problem.

B. Lafferty wrote:
So, assuming that there was a leak (we have only the team's word for that as
nothing was in fact published until the press release from Roberto's team),
the leak must have come from someone in the UCI, the Spanish cycling
federation, Heras or his team.

You've got opportunity now all you need is motive.

Scott wrote:

hardly matters if they've got it wrong or not. He'll be skewered in
the court of public (aka RBR) opinion regardless. No need to wait for
the B sample results.

I suspect you're more likely to get a hung jury if you select the right
rbr posters as the jury members.

"Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...
hardly matters if they've got it wrong or not. He'll be skewered in
the court of public (aka RBR)


No, Heras should have stayed with US Postal, then he would have been another
false positive.

"Patricio Carlos" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Roberto-bashers here are just displaying blatant anti-Spanishism.
This is a disgrace. No Spanish would ever take drugs. You can just
tell. Why do people always resort to blaming Spain? Must be jealousy of
Spain's economic dominance.

And they hate freedom.

Scott wrote:
I don't know if it's true, but there's an interesting point that's
brought up on www.cyclocosm.com. Supposedly he couldn't have injected
the EPO for more than 4 days prior to the test (or it wouldn't have
shown up) and yet it wouldn't have taken effect for more than two weeks
(which is after Heras' season would be over). Why the hell would he
take a banned substance that would in no way help him?

Ah, the old "but it would be illogical to dope!" defense. Look at the
genius defending Hondo:

Herr Franke, "German doping expert", and his 21st century defense on
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ov05/nov05news

1) The amount found is inconsistent with producing optimal results!
2) He knew he would be tested!
3) Carphedon is hard to come by!
And to top it off:
4) It must have been a contaminated water bottle!

I had to laugh.

--
E. Dronkert

Patricio Carlos wrote:
The Roberto-bashers here are just displaying blatant anti-Spanishism.
This is a disgrace. No Spanish would ever take drugs. You can just
tell. Why do people always resort to blaming Spain? Must be jealousy of
Spain's economic dominance.

Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
And they hate freedom.

Freedom fries from mcdonalds.

Scott wrote:
(which is after Heras' season would be over). Why the hell would he
take a banned substance that would in no way help him?

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
Ah, the old "but it would be illogical to dope!" defense. Look at the
genius defending Hondo:

3) Carphedon is hard to come by!
And to top it off:
4) It must have been a contaminated water bottle!

That explains everything ! I was wondering why I could suddenly memorise
the entire WADA banned list and the karma sutra after drinking
from a water bottle that hadn't been cleaned for a week.

Walrus wrote:
This is massive. I hope the B sample comes back negative...cycling
doesn't need this right now.


--
Walrus

oh come on. It isn't that bad. Cycling has a lot of top level, young
riders who are giving cycling a young, fresh, appealing and positive
look (Cunego, Valverde, Boonen, Pozzato, Dekker II, ...). Those are
the new stars. Over here Boonen made cycling even more popular than
during the domination of Museeuw in the mid 90's cycling (especially
women's attention has been drawn to cycling). In Italy Cunego is the
new Messiah after Pantani. Valverde still has a GT to win but i think
in terms of popularity (women!) and marketing he's past Indurain. And
Dekker II is most pure talent in the peloton right now. What's there
to whine about??

Kenny

Donald Munro wrote:
Scott wrote:


hardly matters if they've got it wrong or not. He'll be skewered in
the court of public (aka RBR) opinion regardless. No need to wait for
the B sample results.


I suspect you're more likely to get a hung jury if you select the right
rbr posters as the jury members.


Well hung members, to boot.