Getting Started on Rollers

"Mad Dog" wrote in message
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Carl Sundquist says...

You did a 7 foot long burnout? I don't believe it. How much do you weigh?
30
lbs?

I could care less if you believe it or not. I have witnii. To tell you
the
truth, 7' is an estimate made by stepping it off. It was about a foot
over 2
steps and my steps are very close to 3'. I wish I'd taken a picture of it
because it was so cool, sort of a soft, curvy "L" shape. The floor was
painted
cement, the rear tire was a Vittoria training sew-up at 105 psi, I was at
a
cadence of about 180 rpm in 50/11 gearing. Go try it out yourself.


If you could care less if I believe it or not (actually it's _couldn't_ care
less, unless you really do care), then why did you add supplementary
information?

P.S. I still don't believe you.

Mad Dog wrote in :

William Asher says...

You won't shoot off since there is no forward momentum except in the
rotation of the wheels. If you do fall off, it is more like you move
about three feet forward and then fall over in slow motion.

Bzzzt! Wrongo! I used to ride rollers in the basement and twice rode
off of them. Fortunately, we had a bunch of boxes stacked up against
the wall I ran into that was a good 15 feet away. The rubber streak
on the floor was at least 7' long, so the rear wheel had enough
momentum to be spinning hard for that distance. Of course, the REASON
I went off the rollers those times was because I was doing a fairly
fast spin interval and was concentrating more on my spin than the
direction I was going. Those rubber streaks on the basement floor
were great conversation pieces.


I guess that if when I fell off I didn't notice I had fallen off, I could
do something like that. But most times it is obvious something has gone
wrong so I stop pedaling immediately.

Maybe your wheels are made of iridium-osmium alloy and are a lot heavier
than mine. But it just doesn't make a lot of sense that a 5-lb wheel
spinning even as fast as it does has all that much momentum compared to a
150-lb person + 20-lb bicycle.

--
Bill Asher

On 13 Nov 2005 06:25:31 -0800, Mad Dog wrote:

William Asher says...

You won't shoot off since there is no forward momentum except in the
rotation of the wheels. If you do fall off, it is more like you move
about three feet forward and then fall over in slow motion.

Bzzzt! Wrongo! I used to ride rollers in the basement and twice rode off of
them. Fortunately, we had a bunch of boxes stacked up against the wall I ran
into that was a good 15 feet away. The rubber streak on the floor was at least
7' long,

No way. The only way someone is going to go 7' after coming off the
rollers is it they keep pedalling.

JT

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Ewoud Dronkert wrote in
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William Asher wrote:
I kept unintentionally steering to follow the road on the television.

They have curved rollers that help you stay centered, I never tried
them though. I put wide, bright orange tape left and right on the
front drum to give me a hint that it's time to move back. Besides
seeing it, I can also hear it when I'm touching the tape. *If* I
wasn't wearing headphones...


Ok, let's up the difficulty, pedal at MadDog cadences, in the dark, on a
rolling ship, wearing VR goggles while playing Tony Hawk's Ultra
Skateboard Challenge.

--
Bill Asher

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote in
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On 13 Nov 2005 06:25:31 -0800, Mad Dog wrote:

William Asher says...

You won't shoot off since there is no forward momentum except in the
rotation of the wheels. If you do fall off, it is more like you move
about three feet forward and then fall over in slow motion.

Bzzzt! Wrongo! I used to ride rollers in the basement and twice rode
off of them. Fortunately, we had a bunch of boxes stacked up against
the wall I ran into that was a good 15 feet away. The rubber streak
on the floor was at least 7' long,

No way. The only way someone is going to go 7' after coming off the
rollers is it they keep pedalling.


He does claim to be pedaling at approximately 60+ mph. Who knows, maybe
the stripe was caused by relativistic effects.

I should have said: "I don't shoot off because a) I don't find riding
rollers all that erotic, b) I don't pedal all that fast to begin with,
and c) when I do fall off I have enough sense to stop pedaling and look
for something soft to land on.

--
Bill Asher

Dans le message de ,
John Forrest Tomlinson a réfléchi, et puis a
déclaré :
On 13 Nov 2005 06:25:31 -0800, Mad Dog wrote:

William Asher says...

You won't shoot off since there is no forward momentum except in the
rotation of the wheels. If you do fall off, it is more like you
move about three feet forward and then fall over in slow motion.

Bzzzt! Wrongo! I used to ride rollers in the basement and twice
rode off of them. Fortunately, we had a bunch of boxes stacked up
against the wall I ran into that was a good 15 feet away. The
rubber streak on the floor was at least 7' long,

No way. The only way someone is going to go 7' after coming off the
rollers is it they keep pedalling.

Don't keep haranguing people with reality !! They could have to defend
their claims in a race or two, assuming that the racing they do is on the
road.

But that reminds me of the roller races that used to happen in Chelsea.
Giant rollers. Big wheel speedo. Smelly.
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

Sandy wrote:
John Forrest Tomlinson a réfléchi, et puisa déclaré :

No way. The only way someone is going to go 7' after coming off the
rollers is it they keep pedalling.

Don't keep haranguing people with reality !! They could have to defend
their claims in a race or two, assuming that the racing they do is on the
road.

Everybody in rbr is a virtual winner. It's what we're good at.

But seriously, folks, I can believe that it really happened.
If I had to pick someone in rbr most likely to keep pedaling,
after the wheels had come off the rails, it would be Mad Dog.
Persistence is his strength.

Carl Sundquist says...

If you could care less if I believe it or not (actually it's _couldn't_ care
less, unless you really do care), then why did you add supplementary
information?

Simple boredom. Cold outside, not ready to go out there and freeze fingers and
toes. Living in the past. Pick your favorite.

P.S. I still don't believe you.

I don't believe you that you don't believe me. Prove it.

"William Asher" wrote:
Mad Dog wrote in :

William Asher says...

You won't shoot off since there is no forward momentum except in the
rotation of the wheels. If you do fall off, it is more like you move
about three feet forward and then fall over in slow motion.

Bzzzt! Wrongo! I used to ride rollers in the basement and twice rode
off of them. Fortunately, we had a bunch of boxes stacked up against
the wall I ran into that was a good 15 feet away. The rubber streak
on the floor was at least 7' long, so the rear wheel had enough
momentum to be spinning hard for that distance. Of course, the REASON
I went off the rollers those times was because I was doing a fairly
fast spin interval and was concentrating more on my spin than the
direction I was going. Those rubber streaks on the basement floor
were great conversation pieces.


I guess that if when I fell off I didn't notice I had fallen off, I could
do something like that. But most times it is obvious something has gone
wrong so I stop pedaling immediately.

Maybe your wheels are made of iridium-osmium alloy and are a lot heavier
than mine. But it just doesn't make a lot of sense that a 5-lb wheel
spinning even as fast as it does has all that much momentum compared to a
150-lb person + 20-lb bicycle.

I don't think physics is MadDog's strong suit. Remember, he's the one who
says shaving a few grams of wheel weight will save a couple minutes on an
hour-long climb.

Mark
(still riding 25-year-old Krietler rollers with 7 ft. skid marks wrapped
around the rear drums from purposely locking up the rear wheel at 50 mph)

Mad Dog wrote:
Those rubber streaks on the basement floor were
great conversation pieces.

As one of the legion of readers that doesn't believe you, I
have to ask. What were you *really* doing when you laid
down that rubber?

Maybe I don't want to know.

Bob Schwartz