Car used as a murderous weapon on pavement.

Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

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On Jul 17, 6:12*am, Doug wrote:
Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

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Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

On 17 July, 08:30, Paul Clarke wrote:
On Jul 17, 6:12*am, Doug wrote:



Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

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Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

During your feeble attempt at censorship, real or imagined, I suggest
you also include...

Everything by 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement
of Tantra-Hammock' , such as 'Does waiting for Jesus mean doing
nothing?'

And the following recent thread...

'How long to like a new car?'

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

Don't forget either any references to the World Cup, Wimbledon and any
other sports except cycling and anything to do with Parliamentary
politics which does not refer specifically to cycling. Of course, all
spamming should also be included.

This will probably keep you quite busy for a while but be careful
though that the organisations you report to do not begin to regard you
as nothing more than a petty **** stirrer as it might mean you
yourself ending up being censored.

-- .
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http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

"Doug" wrote in message During your feeble attempt at
censorship, real or imagined, I suggest
you also include...

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

Doing a very quick countup the majority of the ot threads are started by
doug, about cars with no mention of cycle involvement. so pot, kettle etc.

Doug wrote:
Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

I would support the criminalisation of murder, and the introduction of the
most severe penalties for it.

It's about time, I'd say. The current situation, where people can just kill
each other when and as they like, by any method at all, is no longer tenable.

On Jul 17, 10:33*am, Doug wrote:
On 17 July, 08:30, Paul Clarke wrote:

On Jul 17, 6:12*am, Doug wrote:

Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to own a weapon.

Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

During your feeble attempt at censorship, real or imagined, I suggest
you also include...

Everything by 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement
of Tantra-Hammock' , such as 'Does waiting for Jesus mean doing
nothing?'

And the following recent thread...

'How long to like a new car?'

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

Don't forget either any references to the World Cup, Wimbledon and any
other sports except cycling and anything to do with Parliamentary
politics which does not refer specifically to cycling. Of course, all
spamming should also be included.

This will probably keep you quite busy for a while but be careful
though that the organisations you report to do not begin to regard you
as nothing more than a petty **** stirrer as it might mean you
yourself ending up being censored.

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

Doug could you tell me who started the following threads, all OT on UK
cycling?


Seven people injured by one car!
Its a pity more motorists don't do this.
How Much Does a Gallon of Gas Cost?"
Toronto police grabbed "critical mass" cyclist in mid-ride
Critical Mass Marseille - they are almost like us!
More defective cars with safety issues, cyclists beware!
Motorists also responsible for disease!
Parliament Square was already in a sorry state.
Another public handout to the car culture.
More dangerous cars
Another one killed on a pavement and a wall smashed!
Yet another pavement killing, by police this time.
Children are fighting back!
"Car Junkie Detox"
Taxi drivers to block traffic in London.
Hollywood cops assault Critical Mass riders.
Another house smashed by a car.
Another dangerous driver escapes serious punishment.
The fragility of car computers revealed.
Restaurant damaged by car.
Party at the Pumps.
Another killer driver smashes a shop and kills a boy.
Right to pass and repass prevented!
No news is no news.
Detrimental consequences of car use - an EU wide problem.
"Pig Gone Wild"
Bikers and motorists prevent others from going about their lawful
business
Car smashes into a Critical Mass in Lithuania.
Ex-Officer Convicted of Lying About Confrontation With Critical Mass
Cyclist
The horrors of biofuels.
Who posts the most here?
NYPD cop to be tried for pushing Critical Mass cyclist"
Yet another dangerous car model.
Critical Mass liberates women in India.
Car damages cemetery.
More on Mayday in London.
Another pavement motorist kills
Even their tyres can be dangerous.
PARTY AT THE PUMPS - April 10th"
One in the eye for polluting climate sceptics.
"City Pays $98,000 to Critical Mass Cyclists"
NASA to test Toyotas.
Another car damages another house.
Call to tackle pollution 'role in 50,000 early deaths' "
Road travel 'needs big overhaul' to avoid gridlock"
Dozens of car fault death crashes finally being investigated at long
last but not here.
More public handouts to the car industry.
Fat drivers can kill.
Toyota not on recall list surges.
Cycling in Istanbul.
Recall cars not fixed!
"HELP US PUT a stop to pavement parking"
"Climate change human link evidence 'stronger' "
Carmakers' next crutch: Green subsidies"
They don't even know why these dangerous cars surge out of control!
Children being recruited early by the car culture.
Think! Is your car safe?
Many more dangerous cars tolerated on our roads - so why are road
safety campaigns keeping quiet?
California Cyclists' Bill of Rights
How many die later from serious injuries on our roads?
Even more dangerous cars allowed on our roads?
Global cooling blip explained.
Very dangerous cars are allowed on our roads.
Motorists again getting special treatment.
One quarter of US grain crops fed to cars - not people, new figures
show"
Typical short sentence for killer driver.
10 Commandments for motorists"
Another crash into a home.
Its one of those pavement killers again!
Police arrest 78 at New Year celebrations and traffic will be badly
delayed by today's parade.

"webreader" wrote in message
...
On Jul 17, 10:33 am, Doug wrote:
On 17 July, 08:30, Paul Clarke wrote:

On Jul 17, 6:12 am, Doug wrote:

Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to own a weapon.

Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

During your feeble attempt at censorship, real or imagined, I suggest
you also include...

Everything by 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement
of Tantra-Hammock' , such as 'Does waiting for Jesus mean doing
nothing?'

And the following recent thread...

'How long to like a new car?'

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

Don't forget either any references to the World Cup, Wimbledon and any
other sports except cycling and anything to do with Parliamentary
politics which does not refer specifically to cycling. Of course, all
spamming should also be included.

This will probably keep you quite busy for a while but be careful
though that the organisations you report to do not begin to regard you
as nothing more than a petty **** stirrer as it might mean you
yourself ending up being censored.

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

Doug could you tell me who started the following threads, all OT on UK
cycling?


Seven people injured by one car!
Its a pity more motorists don't do this.
How Much Does a Gallon of Gas Cost?"
Toronto police grabbed "critical mass" cyclist in mid-ride
Critical Mass Marseille - they are almost like us!
More defective cars with safety issues, cyclists beware!
Motorists also responsible for disease!
Parliament Square was already in a sorry state.
Another public handout to the car culture.
More dangerous cars
Another one killed on a pavement and a wall smashed!
Yet another pavement killing, by police this time.
Children are fighting back!
"Car Junkie Detox"
Taxi drivers to block traffic in London.
Hollywood cops assault Critical Mass riders.
Another house smashed by a car.
Another dangerous driver escapes serious punishment.
The fragility of car computers revealed.
Restaurant damaged by car.
Party at the Pumps.
Another killer driver smashes a shop and kills a boy.
Right to pass and repass prevented!
No news is no news.
Detrimental consequences of car use - an EU wide problem.
"Pig Gone Wild"
Bikers and motorists prevent others from going about their lawful
business
Car smashes into a Critical Mass in Lithuania.
Ex-Officer Convicted of Lying About Confrontation With Critical Mass
Cyclist
The horrors of biofuels.
Who posts the most here?
NYPD cop to be tried for pushing Critical Mass cyclist"
Yet another dangerous car model.
Critical Mass liberates women in India.
Car damages cemetery.
More on Mayday in London.
Another pavement motorist kills
Even their tyres can be dangerous.
PARTY AT THE PUMPS - April 10th"
One in the eye for polluting climate sceptics.
"City Pays $98,000 to Critical Mass Cyclists"
NASA to test Toyotas.
Another car damages another house.
Call to tackle pollution 'role in 50,000 early deaths' "
Road travel 'needs big overhaul' to avoid gridlock"
Dozens of car fault death crashes finally being investigated at long
last but not here.
More public handouts to the car industry.
Fat drivers can kill.
Toyota not on recall list surges.
Cycling in Istanbul.
Recall cars not fixed!
"HELP US PUT a stop to pavement parking"
"Climate change human link evidence 'stronger' "
Carmakers' next crutch: Green subsidies"
They don't even know why these dangerous cars surge out of control!
Children being recruited early by the car culture.
Think! Is your car safe?
Many more dangerous cars tolerated on our roads - so why are road
safety campaigns keeping quiet?
California Cyclists' Bill of Rights
How many die later from serious injuries on our roads?
Even more dangerous cars allowed on our roads?
Global cooling blip explained.
Very dangerous cars are allowed on our roads.
Motorists again getting special treatment.
One quarter of US grain crops fed to cars - not people, new figures
show"
Typical short sentence for killer driver.
10 Commandments for motorists"
Another crash into a home.
Its one of those pavement killers again!
Police arrest 78 at New Year celebrations and traffic will be badly
delayed by today's parade.

FX: tumble weed, crickets

On 17 July, 11:52, JNugent wrote:
Doug wrote:
Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

I would support the criminalisation of murder, and the introduction of the
most severe penalties for it.

It's about time, I'd say. The current situation, where people can just kill
each other when and as they like, by any method at all, is no longer tenable.

I agree and the method and location should have no bearing on the
penalty. Why should road killings be treated more lightly than other
killings?

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to own a weapon.

On 17 July, 13:32, webreader wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:33*am, Doug wrote:



On 17 July, 08:30, Paul Clarke wrote:

On Jul 17, 6:12*am, Doug wrote:

Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in the
world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted the
pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said Mr
Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to own a weapon.

Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

During your feeble attempt at censorship, real or imagined, I suggest
you also include...

Everything by 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement
of Tantra-Hammock' , such as 'Does waiting for Jesus mean doing
nothing?'

And the following recent thread...

'How long to like a new car?'

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

Don't forget either any references to the World Cup, Wimbledon and any
other sports except cycling and anything to do with Parliamentary
politics which does not refer specifically to cycling. Of course, all
spamming should also be included.

This will probably keep you quite busy for a while but be careful
though that the organisations you report to do not begin to regard you
as nothing more than a petty **** stirrer as it might mean you
yourself ending up being censored.

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

Doug could you tell me who started the following threads, all OT on UK
cycling?

Seven people injured by one car!
Its a pity more motorists don't do this.
How Much Does a Gallon of Gas Cost?"
Toronto police grabbed "critical mass" cyclist in mid-ride
Critical Mass Marseille - they are almost like us!
More defective cars with safety issues, cyclists beware!
Motorists also responsible for disease!
Parliament Square was already in a sorry state.
Another public handout to the car culture.
More dangerous cars
Another one killed on a pavement and a wall smashed!
Yet another pavement killing, by police this time.
Children are fighting back!
"Car Junkie Detox"
Taxi drivers to block traffic in London.
Hollywood cops assault Critical Mass riders.
Another house smashed by a car.
Another dangerous driver escapes serious punishment.
The fragility of car computers revealed.
Restaurant damaged by car.
Party at the Pumps.
Another killer driver smashes a shop and kills a boy.
Right to pass and repass prevented!
No news is no news.
Detrimental consequences of car use - an EU wide problem.
"Pig Gone Wild"
Bikers and motorists prevent others from going about their lawful
business
Car smashes into a Critical Mass in Lithuania.
Ex-Officer Convicted of Lying About Confrontation With Critical Mass
Cyclist
The horrors of biofuels.
Who posts the most here?
NYPD cop to be tried for pushing Critical Mass cyclist"
Yet another dangerous car model.
Critical Mass liberates women in India.
Car damages cemetery.
More on Mayday in London.
Another pavement motorist kills
Even their tyres can be dangerous.
PARTY AT THE PUMPS - April 10th"
One in the eye for polluting climate sceptics.
"City Pays $98,000 to Critical Mass Cyclists"
NASA to test Toyotas.
Another car damages another house.
Call to tackle pollution 'role in 50,000 early deaths' "
Road travel 'needs big overhaul' to avoid gridlock"
Dozens of car fault death crashes finally being investigated at long
last but not here.
More public handouts to the car industry.
Fat drivers can kill.
Toyota not on recall list surges.
Cycling in Istanbul.
Recall cars not fixed!
"HELP US PUT a stop to pavement parking"
"Climate change human link evidence 'stronger' "
Carmakers' next crutch: Green subsidies"
They don't even know why these dangerous cars surge out of control!
Children being recruited early by the car culture.
Think! Is your car safe?
Many more dangerous cars tolerated on our roads - so why are road
safety campaigns keeping quiet?
California Cyclists' Bill of Rights
How many die later from serious injuries on our roads?
Even more dangerous cars allowed on our roads?
Global cooling blip explained.
Very dangerous cars are allowed on our roads.
Motorists again getting special treatment.
One quarter of US grain crops fed to cars - not people, new figures
show"
Typical short sentence for killer driver.
10 Commandments for motorists"
Another crash into a home.
Its one of those pavement killers again!
Police arrest 78 at New Year celebrations and traffic will be badly
delayed by today's parade.

Top posters
This month
156 Derek C
138
117 Just zis Guy, you know?
88
86
78
75
63
62
54

And nearly all cyclist hating motorists, judging by their posts.

What you and others fail to, or don't want to, perceive is that cars
have a serious impact on cycling so anything motorists get up to
should certainly be reported here and freely I would hope.

-- .
London Carfree
http://www.london.carfree.org.uk/
1.5 million adults in London live without a car.

Doug wrote:
On 17 July, 13:32, webreader wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:33 am, Doug wrote:



On 17 July, 08:30, Paul Clarke wrote:

On Jul 17, 6:12 am, Doug wrote:

Could you do this with a bicycle?

"...Jurors watched CCTV footage showing Mr Johnson, of Streatham,
strolling along the pavement opposite the club "without a care in
the world", said Mr Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting.

Then "in a staggering act of revenge", Mr Nankani's car mounted
the pavement, hitting Mr Johnson and killing him instantly, said
Mr Jafferjee.

The victim was thrown into the air, carried on the bonnet and
partially decapitated, the jury heard..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10648990

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to own a weapon.

Off Topic in UK Cycling, serial offender, abuse reported.

During your feeble attempt at censorship, real or imagined, I
suggest you also include...

Everything by 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock' , such as 'Does waiting for Jesus mean
doing nothing?'

And the following recent thread...

'How long to like a new car?'

Also anything posted by motorists here which have nothing whatsoever
to do with cycling.

Don't forget either any references to the World Cup, Wimbledon and
any other sports except cycling and anything to do with
Parliamentary politics which does not refer specifically to
cycling. Of course, all spamming should also be included.

This will probably keep you quite busy for a while but be careful
though that the organisations you report to do not begin to regard
you as nothing more than a petty **** stirrer as it might mean you
yourself ending up being censored.

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's newsgroup is another man's censorship.

Doug could you tell me who started the following threads, all OT on
UK cycling?

Seven people injured by one car!
Its a pity more motorists don't do this.
How Much Does a Gallon of Gas Cost?"
Toronto police grabbed "critical mass" cyclist in mid-ride
Critical Mass Marseille - they are almost like us!
More defective cars with safety issues, cyclists beware!
Motorists also responsible for disease!
Parliament Square was already in a sorry state.
Another public handout to the car culture.
More dangerous cars
Another one killed on a pavement and a wall smashed!
Yet another pavement killing, by police this time.
Children are fighting back!
"Car Junkie Detox"
Taxi drivers to block traffic in London.
Hollywood cops assault Critical Mass riders.
Another house smashed by a car.
Another dangerous driver escapes serious punishment.
The fragility of car computers revealed.
Restaurant damaged by car.
Party at the Pumps.
Another killer driver smashes a shop and kills a boy.
Right to pass and repass prevented!
No news is no news.
Detrimental consequences of car use - an EU wide problem.
"Pig Gone Wild"
Bikers and motorists prevent others from going about their lawful
business
Car smashes into a Critical Mass in Lithuania.
Ex-Officer Convicted of Lying About Confrontation With Critical Mass
Cyclist
The horrors of biofuels.
Who posts the most here?
NYPD cop to be tried for pushing Critical Mass cyclist"
Yet another dangerous car model.
Critical Mass liberates women in India.
Car damages cemetery.
More on Mayday in London.
Another pavement motorist kills
Even their tyres can be dangerous.
PARTY AT THE PUMPS - April 10th"
One in the eye for polluting climate sceptics.
"City Pays $98,000 to Critical Mass Cyclists"
NASA to test Toyotas.
Another car damages another house.
Call to tackle pollution 'role in 50,000 early deaths' "
Road travel 'needs big overhaul' to avoid gridlock"
Dozens of car fault death crashes finally being investigated at long
last but not here.
More public handouts to the car industry.
Fat drivers can kill.
Toyota not on recall list surges.
Cycling in Istanbul.
Recall cars not fixed!
"HELP US PUT a stop to pavement parking"
"Climate change human link evidence 'stronger' "
Carmakers' next crutch: Green subsidies"
They don't even know why these dangerous cars surge out of control!
Children being recruited early by the car culture.
Think! Is your car safe?
Many more dangerous cars tolerated on our roads - so why are road
safety campaigns keeping quiet?
California Cyclists' Bill of Rights
How many die later from serious injuries on our roads?
Even more dangerous cars allowed on our roads?
Global cooling blip explained.
Very dangerous cars are allowed on our roads.
Motorists again getting special treatment.
One quarter of US grain crops fed to cars - not people, new figures
show"
Typical short sentence for killer driver.
10 Commandments for motorists"
Another crash into a home.
Its one of those pavement killers again!
Police arrest 78 at New Year celebrations and traffic will be badly
delayed by today's parade.

Top posters
This month
156 Derek C
138
117 Just zis Guy, you know?
88
86
78
75
63
62
54

And nearly all cyclist hating motorists, judging by their posts.

What you and others fail to, or don't want to, perceive is that cars
have a serious impact on cycling so anything motorists get up to
should certainly be reported here and freely I would hope.

-- .
London Carfree
http://www.london.carfree.org.uk/
1.5 million adults in London live without a car.

so a cycling group is a car group in your strange logic? so every car
crash, vehicle fault, stolen car and drunk driver report can be put on here?
it would be swamped in minutes.