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Opinions on Dahon Bikes?
Le Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:35:13 +0000, Simon Brooke a écrit :
I know nothing about Dahons either for or against, but have you considered an Airnimal URL:http://www.airnimal.com/Chameleon.php? This seems closer to what you want than a commuter folder, and has a very good reputation. I don't know about weight limits; you'd have to ask them. I've met a guy who was riding an Airnimal in a 300 km one-day marathon. It seemed to be a good and fast bike. Jacques |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:32:31 +0200, "Jacques Moser"
wrote: I've met a guy who was riding an Airnimal in a 300 km one-day marathon. It seemed to be a good and fast bike. Jacques In the U.S. they are another price point up from the cheapest multi-speed Bike Fridays. They are pretty much on par with the Bike Fridays that are in the touring lines, rather than urban commuters. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:25:09 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli
wrote (more or less): .... On the other hand, I've spoken to dealers here in Paris who claim they have stopped keeping Dahon in stock because they had too many problems with these bikes. One told me he had a customer nearly kill herself when her Dahon came apart at the folding join in full traffic. These dealers swear by Brompton for folding bikes, but I am not that sold on Brommies. I'm not keen on the 16" wheels and find them very heavy and clunky. They are famous for their elegant folding system but I'm not looking for something to take on the metro. I cannot tell if the dealers were knocking Dahon to promote Brompton or whether they really did have a good reason. Biketrax(.co.uk) in Edinburgh bill themselves as a foldable specialist, and stock both Brompton and Dahon. Perhaps you might want to contact them? -- Cheers, Euan Gawnsoft: http://www.gawnsoft.co.sr Symbian/Epoc wiki: http://html.dnsalias.net:1122 Smalltalk links (harvested from comp.lang.smalltalk) http://html.dnsalias.net/gawnsoft/smalltalk |
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in message , Ambrose Nankivell
') wrote: "Robert J. Matter" writes: The problem with Dahon and all other "off the shelf" folder manufacturers is their failure to produce a man-sized bike. They all have weight limits of around 230 lbs. which of course is too light for a man (or larger woman) who might be traveling with perhaps a 50 lb. pack. In the winter a rider might have 10 lbs. worth of clothes and boots on as well. How embarassing. There was I thinking I was a man when all along I'm not. Why didn't anyone tell me you had to weigh at least 80kg before you were one. Well if it's any comfort to you, I'm only just a man, and I'm trying hard not to be. I've another two and a half kilos to lose. Mind you, I'm quite small - only 186 centimetres. This side of the Atlantic, Clydesdale is mostly in Lanarkshire. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:25:09 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli
wrote: I'm beginning to get that "third bike itch". Myrtille and Behemoth are both city bikes and have my everyday riding needs pretty much wrapped up between them. I have started to dream of longer runs, bike touring in beautiful holiday places. But this almost always seems to mean renting an unfamiliar bike locally and getting used to its idiosynchracies. Behemoth is way too heavy to cart around. And there are many kinds of terrain for which she has let me know she is unsuitable. Dahon makes a folding bike called the Speed TR which has a rack for luggage and a Sram DualDrive shifter. I am tempted by the possibility of a bike that I could take with me on trains, and travel with on tours. I know a very intrepid Russian lady in Cambridge who has a Dahon Speed Pro, a related model, that she swears by. She has ridden it all over France. She says it is a dream. She can take it anywhere and it then takes her anywhere. But she is light and wiry with her steel-colored hair and her Imperial accent, and I would never be so bold as to place myself in the same lofty cycling category as her. On the other hand, I've spoken to dealers here in Paris who claim they have stopped keeping Dahon in stock because they had too many problems with these bikes. One told me he had a customer nearly kill herself when her Dahon came apart at the folding join in full traffic. These dealers swear by Brompton for folding bikes, but I am not that sold on Brommies. I'm not keen on the 16" wheels and find them very heavy and clunky. They are famous for their elegant folding system but I'm not looking for something to take on the metro. I cannot tell if the dealers were knocking Dahon to promote Brompton or whether they really did have a good reason. Also there is a concern for the wieght limit on the Dahon models I'm looking at. I am very near it. With luggage, I would be over it. I don't know how important this is - would it prejudice the folding system and void any guarantees? The Speed TR costs over £600 so it's not an anodine purchase. I'd be grateful for your experiences/opinions. EFR Ile de France Today I went into a bike shop (Warlands in Oxford - highly recommended) looking for my one bike to keep at home (for sob story, see my thread "a bike of many hats" last week). One of the bikes I had a ride on was a Moulton. Oh my gawd, what a piece of kit! The Moulton is fast, and obviously very efficient - at a guess, I would have been giving my touring bike a run for its money. It bounces like a pogo stick if you start screwing the juice on too hard, but apparently this can be "tuned" with some nuts and screws. I would guess I'm heavier than you (about 240lbs) and imagine the bike is set up for someone lighter when it leaves the factory. There's all kinds of pannier racks available, and I know people have done heavily laden tours on them, so weight can't be too much of a problem. Admittedly, it does look weird. People were stopping and smiling at me, not sure if this was because I had "potential purchase grin" or they thought I looked stupid. But what the hell, for a ride like that I reckon I could live with it. Plus I know I could leave the kids on mountain bikes, and a good few roadies coughing up dust miles behind me. -; The prices go from £675 for the Fx8, which I rode today and which my opinions are based, up to £2500-plus for the AM - trying this next week. Chris -- |C|H|R|I|S|@|T|R|I|N|I|T|Y|W|I|L|L|S|.|C|O|M| Remove the bars to contact me |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:35:05 GMT, Simon Brooke
wrote (more or less): in message , Ambrose Nankivell ') wrote: "Robert J. Matter" writes: The problem with Dahon and all other "off the shelf" folder manufacturers is their failure to produce a man-sized bike. They all have weight limits of around 230 lbs. which of course is too light for a man (or larger woman) who might be traveling with perhaps a 50 lb. pack. In the winter a rider might have 10 lbs. worth of clothes and boots on as well. How embarassing. There was I thinking I was a man when all along I'm not. Why didn't anyone tell me you had to weigh at least 80kg before you were one. Well if it's any comfort to you, I'm only just a man, and I'm trying hard not to be. I've another two and a half kilos to lose. Mind you, I'm quite small - only 186 centimetres. This side of the Atlantic, Clydesdale is mostly in Lanarkshire. Or in the eponymous horses. :-) -- Cheers, Euan Gawnsoft: http://www.gawnsoft.co.sr Symbian/Epoc wiki: http://html.dnsalias.net:1122 Smalltalk links (harvested from comp.lang.smalltalk) http://html.dnsalias.net/gawnsoft/smalltalk |
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"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
... in message , Ambrose Nankivell ') wrote: "Robert J. Matter" writes: The problem with Dahon and all other "off the shelf" folder manufacturers is their failure to produce a man-sized bike. They all have weight limits of around 230 lbs. which of course is too light for a man (or larger woman) who might be traveling with perhaps a 50 lb. pack. In the winter a rider might have 10 lbs. worth of clothes and boots on as well. How embarassing. There was I thinking I was a man when all along I'm not. Why didn't anyone tell me you had to weigh at least 80kg before you were one. Because a real man guzzles enough beer and chocolate to put their weight over 80kg without even trying?? Well if it's any comfort to you, I'm only just a man, and I'm trying hard not to be. I've another two and a half kilos to lose. Mind you, I'm quite small - only 186 centimetres. I'm an inch shorter than you, Simon. Am I a man or not? This side of the Atlantic, Clydesdale is mostly in Lanarkshire. What about Athena? -- Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen, Short Guy compared to Simon |
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"Gawnsoft" wrote in message
... On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:25:09 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote (more or less): ... On the other hand, I've spoken to dealers here in Paris who claim they have stopped keeping Dahon in stock because they had too many problems with these bikes. One told me he had a customer nearly kill herself when her Dahon came apart at the folding join in full traffic. These dealers swear by Brompton for folding bikes, but I am not that sold on Brommies. I'm not keen on the 16" wheels and find them very heavy and clunky. They are famous for their elegant folding system but I'm not looking for something to take on the metro. I cannot tell if the dealers were knocking Dahon to promote Brompton or whether they really did have a good reason. Biketrax(.co.uk) in Edinburgh bill themselves as a foldable specialist, and stock both Brompton and Dahon. Perhaps you might want to contact them? When buying a Dahon, be aware that the models with the same designation are nonetheless sold in different configs in different countries. For example, US (and possibly UK?) models come without the mudguards and rack that are standard in continental Europe. -- Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen |
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"Elisa Francesca Roselli" wrote... I'm beginning to get that "third bike itch". Myrtille and Behemoth are both city bikes and have my everyday riding needs pretty much wrapped up between them. I have started to dream of longer runs, bike touring in beautiful holiday places. But this almost always seems to mean renting an unfamiliar bike locally and getting used to its idiosynchracies. Behemoth is way too heavy to cart around. And there are many kinds of terrain for which she has let me know she is unsuitable. Dahon makes a folding bike called the Speed TR which has a rack for luggage and a Sram DualDrive shifter. I am tempted by the possibility of a bike that I could take with me on trains, and travel with on tours. The third bike itch is a good thing, and a good touring bike would be good to have, but does it have to be a folder? I believe that there are still trains in France that accept fully assembled bikes, and I never found boxing up my bike to travel on TGV trains to be all that dreadful a chore. I'm not recommending against the Dahon or other folder, just suggesting that you consider non-folding as well as folding machines when shopping for a tourer. |
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=v= Here's another folding bike website:
http://www.geocities.com/justridinga...lding-bicycle/ Check out especially the links at the bottom. =v= You might subscribe to the folding-bicycle email list (details on that website), but you'll get pretty much the same responses you got he "Try the one I got, I like it." To which I might personally inevitably add, try the Bike Friday, I like it. (Mention my name if you buy one; I can buy some new tires with the referral fee.) =v= Dahons are the cheapest, and I've taken some rides on some good ones. Quality varies, though, so try before you buy, if you're going that route. _Jym_ |
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