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Interesting thread. Someone care to add updates? Personally, I think that there are a lot of young riders with a "no helmet, I'm too cool" attitude borrowed from skaters. No good. Their moms should spank them. -- ivan Sledgehammer for Jebusentropy isn't what it used to be. Trying is the first step towards failure. -Homer Simpson- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oagr6Ydjzdw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ivan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12759 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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ivan wrote: Interesting thread. Someone care to add updates? Personally, I think that there are a lot of young riders with a "no helmet, I'm too cool" attitude borrowed from skaters. No good. Their moms should spank them. but hitting people is wrong! -- thejdw I didn't spell it wrong, you just read it wrong! kington99 wrote: A hobnob is an oaty biscuit, the fact that they don't exist in america just goes to show that you have no culinary heritage don't follow Jesus, follow me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ thejdw's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13230 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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ivan wrote: Interesting thread. Someone care to add updates? Personally, I think that there are a lot of young riders with a "no helmet, I'm too cool" attitude borrowed from skaters. No good. Their moms should spank them. Another trend I've seen surprisingly is the glorification of no leg protection. Somehow its cooler to have large bloody gashes down your legs. unifreak7 wrote: YES NO PADS!! That's the way to ride nowadays. Padless for 6 weeks, how about you? -Shaun Johanneson Shaun of all people. Not quite as noble as Mr. Holm now are we? -- Brian O. *'ProjectUNI' (http://www.otherworldsociety.org/projectuni) - *The First Serious Unicycle Computer Game* - -Simple multiplayer muni concept demo soon.-* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Mr. Holm maybe humble and all, but -why- does he have danger_uni as his username? Glorification of danger? -- ivan Sledgehammer for Jebusentropy isn't what it used to be. Trying is the first step towards failure. -Homer Simpson- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oagr6Ydjzdw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ivan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12759 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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ivan wrote: Mr. Holm maybe humble and all, but -why- does he have danger_uni as his username? Glorification of danger? Hardly glorification, its a warning for us to remember how dangerous it can be. Sort of like those "Danger: curve ahead." road signs. -- Brian O. *'ProjectUNI' (http://www.otherworldsociety.org/projectuni) - *The First Serious Unicycle Computer Game* - -Simple multiplayer muni concept demo soon.-* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Interesting. Risk breaks down into two completely separate areas: - How likely it is to happen. - How serious the consequences are likely to be if it does happen. Most people's risk assessment skills are poorly developed. The typical western person's upbringing involves two conflicting influences on their risk assessment: - A health and safety first, take no risks, take no responsibility attitude. (School trips banned because they are dangerous; fire fighters banned from standing on a step ladder to fit a smoke detector; the balme and litigation culture.) - Entertainment media that show people surviving improbable or impossible levels of danger. The safety first upbringing means that most people have no intuitive understanding of how to assess risk. They have never faced risk. The entertainment media thing then paints a misleading image on this blank canvas: you can survive the most extreme accident, fall, etc., if only you are brave enough and cool enough. If you see something happen enough times, it becomes the norm. Most people spend more time watching TV or playing computerised action games than they do taking physical exercise. So then someone gets the chance to take part in a risky activity. They can react two ways: - Maintain the safety first at all costs attitude, and think they are living on the edge when they ride their 21 speed mountainbike along a level fire road in the forest. They glorify the icons of danger: the helmet, the "body armour" (does "padding" sound as glamorous?), and the totems: brands, colours, technical features. They are role playing. - Or they can role play the action scenes they have watched a thousand times - but with no real understanding of the real risks. It's the second sort we're concerned with. Any fool can get on a mountain bike and ride it down hill moderately fast. If they have enough padding, they can even survive a few falls - then exaggerate them in their memories. And any fool can ride a mountainbike off a 1 foot drop, or 18 inches, or 2 feet. Then they notice two things: - It wasn't that exciting - They didn't hurt themselves To make it more exciting, they try a bigger drop, or a faster drop. They try to recreate the adrenaline rush, and it's never quite as good as they hoped. But because they've never fallen badly before, by inductive reasoning, they sort of assume they'll never fall. Until they do. But a unicyclist or a scuba diver has to do a lot of work to earn each step of his or her way. Riding a unicycle is a few hours' hard work, and there will be some falls along the way, and you will probably hurt yourself just enough to learn respect. then freemounting is a few hours' more work. And idling is. And so is your first mile long ride. And so on. In bicycling, you can go from complete novice to appearing to be in control at moderately high speed on the smae day. On a unicycle, you earn every bit of your skill, and appreciate it more. I think that there is a double effect he - It takes a certain personality type to have the determination to learn to unicycle. They will generally have a better "attitude" to risk. - Unicycling itself teaches you to assess risk, because there are so many falls and knocks along the way. Some rock climbers are safety fetishists, and enjoy the risk management (look at all this equipment) as much as the climbing. It is an arcane mystery, and men like arcane mysteries that involve shiny bits of metal and "rituals". Other rock climbers are gung ho. Free climbers who do short but extreme climbs. Many years ago, I was interested in rock climbing. I remember reading in High (the BMC magazine) about a bloke (Ron Fawcett?) who had broken every major bone in his body several times in his climbing career. he was an adrenaline junkie. -- Mikefule I don't know what hurts most when I ride my uni: my left leg, my right leg, or something in between. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikefule's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/879 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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I agree with Brian O on leg protection... If I'm riding along as transportation I usually only wear wrist guards (though I should wear a helmet)... Every time I try a trick or something challenging when I'm not wearing leg armor, I end up bleeding :P -- evil-nick Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. * Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear. I'm late for checkers with the Dalai Lama! My gallery: http://evil.linuxfreak.ca/uni.html Our Club: http://cs.ubishops.ca/~buuc/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ evil-nick's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6692 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Brian O. wrote: Another trend I've seen surprisingly is the glorification of no leg protection. Somehow its cooler to have large bloody gashes down your legs. Hmmmm I wonder if the girls like blood... @Mikefule- intersting write up -- thejdw I didn't spell it wrong, you just read it wrong! kington99 wrote: A hobnob is an oaty biscuit, the fact that they don't exist in america just goes to show that you have no culinary heritage don't follow Jesus, follow me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ thejdw's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13230 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Then went on to do more to make uni riding look like danger MTB then all the rest of us put together LOL ! To me, a big part of the coolness of uni is how I can do it in my own yard. If I lived next to a motocross track or mountain, maybe I wouldn't have seen the attraction. Now that I'm started, I see it as a game that makes simple obstacles a fun challenge. The danger part actually has little appeal. Having broken 2 bones at motocross, I think I would rather break the next one at motocross, LOL. I see uni as plenty risky. Plenty dangerous as well. I am looking forward to the cooler weather when I can actually stand to wear my leg guards and start taking chances. The fun part of uni is balance.In motocross it was a whole bunch of things. Speed, track position, body placement, intricacies of bike control, clutch, throttle and brakes. To many factors to list at 35 mph. Uni is balance and simplicity. Always at low speed. Always in the same gear. It's not really easier, or less challenging. But it took Kriss to make it look bat **** crazy and as dangerous LOL! -- feel the light ------------------------------------------------------------------------ feel the light's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14551 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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ivan wrote: Mr. Holm maybe humble and all,..... he is humble but his name is on EACH unicycle what? 15-18 times ??? -- skrobo Unicycle For Christ 'YOUneedtoTUBE MYTUBE' (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=skroboskim) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ skrobo's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12272 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/14446 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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