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  #91  
Old October 28th 06, 03:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
bill
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Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
On 10/27/06 4:00 PM, in article
, "bill"
wrote:


Steven Bornfeld wrote:

Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:

The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.

Election day's a'comin!!

Steve


Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there
are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.



Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana.



At least those states are so underpopulated they don't count much.

--
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  #92  
Old October 28th 06, 05:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Tim McNamara
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Default Minority Opinion

In article ,
"Steven L. Sheffield" wrote:

On 10/27/06 4:00 PM, in article
, "bill"
wrote:

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Only once. And that is suspect.

Election day's a'comin!!


Yeah, And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a
Republican clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way,
unless there are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.


Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana.


Sorry, I don't share the optimism. I think that the Democrats will not
take back either the House or the Senate if the local campaigns are any
indication. The Democrats are basically running on the "We're not
Republicans" platform but are not offering credible, intelligent
alternatives to the (frequently criminal) Republican malfeasance of the
past six years. I don't think it's enough to not be the Republicans-
the Democrats have to offer some alternative vision of the future.
They've failed to do that. Unfortunately most of the criticisms of the
Democrats from 1994 are still accurate.

"All political parties die at last from swallowing their own lies."
This has happened to both the Democrats and the Republicans. Maybe it's
time for other parties to advance into prominence and for these two
seriously corrupted cesspools to go away if they can't reform themselves.
  #93  
Old October 28th 06, 06:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
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Kyle Legate wrote:

bill wrote:

Steven Bornfeld wrote:

Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:

The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Election day's a'comin!!

Steve

Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a
Republican clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way,
unless there are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.

That's a no brainer.



**rim shot**

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
  #94  
Old October 28th 06, 06:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
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Default Minority Opinion

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:

On 10/27/06 4:00 PM, in article
, "bill"
wrote:


Steven Bornfeld wrote:

Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:

The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.

Election day's a'comin!!

Steve


Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there
are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.




Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana.



Montana has a Democratic Governor, one Democratic senator, and one
Republican senator who is running for re-election this year against a
Democrat and a Libertarian. It has one Republican congressman who is
running for re-election this year against a Democrat and a Libertarian.
They're not MY idea of Democrats, but you have to make allowances for
the wild, wild west.

http://www.uselections.com/mt/mt.htm


Steve


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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
  #95  
Old October 28th 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Michael Press
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Default Minority Opinion

In article
,
Tim McNamara wrote:

In article ,
"Steven L. Sheffield" wrote:

On 10/27/06 4:00 PM, in article
, "bill"
wrote:

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Only once. And that is suspect.

Election day's a'comin!!


Yeah, And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a
Republican clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way,
unless there are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.


Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana.


Sorry, I don't share the optimism. I think that the Democrats will not
take back either the House or the Senate if the local campaigns are any
indication. The Democrats are basically running on the "We're not
Republicans" platform but are not offering credible, intelligent
alternatives to the (frequently criminal) Republican malfeasance of the
past six years. I don't think it's enough to not be the Republicans-
the Democrats have to offer some alternative vision of the future.
They've failed to do that. Unfortunately most of the criticisms of the
Democrats from 1994 are still accurate.

"All political parties die at last from swallowing their own lies."
This has happened to both the Democrats and the Republicans. Maybe it's
time for other parties to advance into prominence and for these two
seriously corrupted cesspools to go away if they can't reform themselves.


A recent chairman of the RNC said "I do not get to
choose the chairman of the DNC, but if I did, then I
would choose Howard Dean."

The Democratic party goes out on the playground, gets
pantsed, their lunch money taken, shoes thrown over a
utility line, and rolled in a mud hole. Why don't they
grow some?

--
Michael Press
  #96  
Old October 29th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
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Bill wrote:
Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
On 10/27/06 4:00 PM, in article
, "bill"
wrote:


Steven Bornfeld wrote:

Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:

The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.

Election day's a'comin!!

Steve


Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there
are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.



Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana.



At least those states are so underpopulated they don't count much.


Think again. The 44 Democratic Senators in Congress represent
approximately 161 million citizens, while the 55 Republican Senators
represent approximately 131 million citizens.

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

  #98  
Old October 29th 06, 01:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
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Default Start your own thread, please!


wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
. ..
Sure, I'll make donations to the American Friends Service Committee and
Move On in your name. The best was to support the troops is to bring
them home NOW and vote Democrat in November.

Brian: While I agree with your sentiments, it's wrong to assume a
reasonable person couldn't make a reasonable case for the other side
(keeping troops there, or putting them there in the first place). And as
for the Democratic party, sorry, I can't help but think that Bill Clinton
passed up opportunities to deal with this before things got totally out of
hand. When the inspectors weren't allowed to inspect, he could have
ordered immediate reprisals each and every time. Eventually the message
gets home. You let the inspectors do their job, or something gets bombed.
A direct linkage. But we seem to have problems with that sort of thing; in
our military handbooks, apparently it's a requirement that all such things
lead to escalation and ever-greater involvement.

I can't believe I'm replying in this thread.



Bill Clinton has been out of office for six long years during which the
Republican Party has controlled the Executive branch and both Houses of
Congress. Bill Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He continued the policies
toward Iraq that were in place from the prior Bush administration. The
evidence is clear that the intelligence people in Clinton's outgoing
National Security Council tried to tell the incoming Bush people about bin
Laden but the warnings fell on deaf, ideological ears. Bush and the
Republican party made this mess and America is finally waking up--too late
for the needlessly dead and maimed. And now the Taliban is returning in
Afghanistan because Bush diverted the war machine to Iraq. The only people
coming out of this on the plus side are the leaders of the arms industry.
And then there's that budget deficit every year under Bush. My kids will be
paying for that and their kids as well.


Brian, et al...

I implore you, please start your own thread if you want to bash Bush or
discuss the war itself. I'm not talking about supporting the
administration or the war. I'm just trying to generate support for the
folks who're asked to do the hard work.

If you have a single sympathetic gene in your body for the folks
actually fighting, suffering, or dying in the war in Iraq and
Afghanistan, you'll take your political discussions elsewhere.


I see Scott has little understanding of the dynamics of Usenet
discussion.

You have two choices - have the discipline to ignore flame-wars or
learn to enjoy them.

Complaining and pleading does nothing but invite ridicule.

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

  #100  
Old October 29th 06, 01:27 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
ST
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Default Start your own thread, please!

On 10/28/06 5:38 PM, in article
, "Johnny Sunset aka Tom
Sherman" wrote:


wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
. ..
Sure, I'll make donations to the American Friends Service Committee and
Move On in your name. The best was to support the troops is to bring
them home NOW and vote Democrat in November.

Brian: While I agree with your sentiments, it's wrong to assume a
reasonable person couldn't make a reasonable case for the other side
(keeping troops there, or putting them there in the first place). And as
for the Democratic party, sorry, I can't help but think that Bill Clinton
passed up opportunities to deal with this before things got totally out of
hand. When the inspectors weren't allowed to inspect, he could have
ordered immediate reprisals each and every time. Eventually the message
gets home. You let the inspectors do their job, or something gets bombed.
A direct linkage. But we seem to have problems with that sort of thing; in
our military handbooks, apparently it's a requirement that all such things
lead to escalation and ever-greater involvement.

I can't believe I'm replying in this thread.


Bill Clinton has been out of office for six long years during which the
Republican Party has controlled the Executive branch and both Houses of
Congress. Bill Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He continued the policies
toward Iraq that were in place from the prior Bush administration. The
evidence is clear that the intelligence people in Clinton's outgoing
National Security Council tried to tell the incoming Bush people about bin
Laden but the warnings fell on deaf, ideological ears. Bush and the
Republican party made this mess and America is finally waking up--too late
for the needlessly dead and maimed. And now the Taliban is returning in
Afghanistan because Bush diverted the war machine to Iraq. The only people
coming out of this on the plus side are the leaders of the arms industry.
And then there's that budget deficit every year under Bush. My kids will be
paying for that and their kids as well.


Brian, et al...

I implore you, please start your own thread if you want to bash Bush or
discuss the war itself. I'm not talking about supporting the
administration or the war. I'm just trying to generate support for the
folks who're asked to do the hard work.

If you have a single sympathetic gene in your body for the folks
actually fighting, suffering, or dying in the war in Iraq and
Afghanistan, you'll take your political discussions elsewhere.


I see Scott has little understanding of the dynamics of Usenet
discussion.

You have two choices - have the discipline to ignore flame-wars or
learn to enjoy them.

Complaining and pleading does nothing but invite ridicule.


I wonder how many of these Bush bashing replies are coming from
rec.bicycles.socialism??

 




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