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Old April 27th 09, 04:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Keats
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

In article ,
Ablang writes:
I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot last
year for about $2.50. Pretty cheap stuff.

I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. The next day I discover that some part of the patch has
breached.

In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.

What do you guys think?

Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?


Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication thread.


cheers,
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Old April 27th 09, 04:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Nick L Plate
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

On 27 Apr, 04:08, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * Ablang writes:



I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot last
year for about $2.50. *Pretty cheap stuff.


I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. *The next day I discover that some part of the patch has
breached.


In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.


What do you guys think?


Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?


Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? * ;-) *;-) *;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication thread.


Might have already happened.
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Old April 27th 09, 06:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
RonSonic
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:08:02 -0700, (Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ,
Ablang writes:
I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot last
year for about $2.50. Pretty cheap stuff.

I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. The next day I discover that some part of the patch has
breached.

In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.

What do you guys think?

Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?


Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication thread.


Hey Tom, maybe I can help.

In emergencies I've successfully shortened and rewelded "rubber" belts in things
like tape recorders and turntables using super glue (cyano-acrylate). It works
very nicely. I've read of people healing cuts in tire treads with the stuff as
well.

Has anyone tried the stuff on patches?

Is it perhaps the answer for someone like SJM who, against all advice and the
accumulated experience of every single person in this forum, insists on trying
to use pieces of tube as a patch? Would CA do it?

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Old April 27th 09, 02:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jim beam[_4_]
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

RonSonic wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:08:02 -0700, (Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ,
Ablang writes:
I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot last
year for about $2.50. Pretty cheap stuff.

I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. The next day I discover that some part of the patch has
breached.

In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.

What do you guys think?

Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?

Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication thread.


Hey Tom, maybe I can help.

In emergencies I've successfully shortened and rewelded "rubber" belts in things
like tape recorders and turntables using super glue (cyano-acrylate). It works
very nicely. I've read of people healing cuts in tire treads with the stuff as
well.

Has anyone tried the stuff on patches?


loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers. it comes in their o-ring kits.



Is it perhaps the answer for someone like SJM who, against all advice and the
accumulated experience of every single person in this forum, insists on trying
to use pieces of tube as a patch? Would CA do it?

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Old April 27th 09, 04:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Bill Sornson[_5_]
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

jim beam wrote:

loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers.


Try telling your S.O. that.


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Old April 27th 09, 04:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
RonSonic
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:03:12 -0700, jim beam
wrote:

RonSonic wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:08:02 -0700, (Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ,
Ablang writes:
I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot last
year for about $2.50. Pretty cheap stuff.

I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. The next day I discover that some part of the patch has
breached.

In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.

What do you guys think?

Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?
Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication thread.


Hey Tom, maybe I can help.

In emergencies I've successfully shortened and rewelded "rubber" belts in things
like tape recorders and turntables using super glue (cyano-acrylate). It works
very nicely. I've read of people healing cuts in tire treads with the stuff as
well.

Has anyone tried the stuff on patches?


loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers. it comes in their o-ring kits.


Good to know. Thanks j.




Is it perhaps the answer for someone like SJM who, against all advice and the
accumulated experience of every single person in this forum, insists on trying
to use pieces of tube as a patch? Would CA do it?

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Old April 27th 09, 06:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Martin Riddle
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!



"jim beam" wrote in message
t...
RonSonic wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:08:02 -0700, (Tom
Keats) wrote:

In article
,
Ablang writes:
I bought a 4oz jar (UPC 0 269050 8) of this stuff from Home Depot
last
year for about $2.50. Pretty cheap stuff.

I finally got a chance to use these on my inner tubes for my 27" x
1-1/4" tires (100 psi) and found out that they don't really stick
permanently. The next day I discover that some part of the patch
has
breached.

In trying to figure out what I did wrong (I have successfully
patched
other tires before using the glue from patch kits), I figure it's
that
I'm either using too thick of a layer of Elmer's or that this
rubber
cement really isn't the vulcanizing kind.

What do you guys think?

Where can I buy (in bulk) a large amount of the vulcanizing cement
from at the best price?
Y'see what a Pandora's can o' worms you've opened? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Might as well have started another chain cleaning/lubrication
thread.


Hey Tom, maybe I can help.

In emergencies I've successfully shortened and rewelded "rubber"
belts in things
like tape recorders and turntables using super glue (cyano-acrylate).
It works
very nicely. I've read of people healing cuts in tire treads with the
stuff as
well. Has anyone tried the stuff on patches?


loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers. it comes in their o-ring kits.


404 dries hard as a rock too.

Cheers



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Old April 28th 09, 03:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

"jim beam" wrote:
[...]
loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers. it comes in their o-ring kits.

All types of rubber? Other elastomers?

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Old April 28th 09, 04:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jim beam[_4_]
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

Bill Sornson wrote:
jim beam wrote:

loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers.


Try telling your S.O. that.



funny, but family newsgroup buddy.
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Old April 28th 09, 04:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jim beam[_4_]
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Default Elmer's Rubber Cement is not the vulcanizing kind!

Tom Sherman wrote:
"jim beam" wrote:
[...]
loctite 404 is /specific/ for rubbers. it comes in their o-ring kits.

All types of rubber? Other elastomers?


broken fingers tom? can't google "loctite 404 data sheet"?
 




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