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Wildlife Need Habitat Off-Limits to Humans!
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:32:54 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:24:05 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:50 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote: Horse genitals. Man is the dominant species on the planet. If a species of animal can't adapt to man's promixity, and it lacks the brains to migrate, then it deserves to become extinct. Can I get a "Whoooaaa, mankind!" from those assembled? Geoff You obviously have no idea how totally dependent we are on the existence of other species! Such ignorance seems to be endemic these days.... Whether we are dependent on them or not is a matter of debate. The fact remains, we are superior to every other living organism on the planet. Explain why " we are superior to every other living organism on the planet"! This should be very entertaining. Or not. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:20:09 -0400, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote: "Jeff Strickland" wrote The facts on the ground trump anything you read in book, or make up out of thin air. Actually the facts are in the ground, where the vast bulk of the earth's biomass resides in the form of Bacteria. And also in your own body, where bacterial cells outnumber your own cells by 10 to 1. So no matter how you slice it, bacteria are the most successful animals on earth. Good point. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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In your ignorance, you snipped it, and then asked me to support it in the blank space you created. |
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:20:09 -0400, "V for Vendicar" m wrote: "Jeff Strickland" wrote The facts on the ground trump anything you read in book, or make up out of thin air. Actually the facts are in the ground, where the vast bulk of the earth's biomass resides in the form of Bacteria. And also in your own body, where bacterial cells outnumber your own cells by 10 to 1. So no matter how you slice it, bacteria are the most successful animals on earth. Good point. Except for the part about bacteria being animals ... |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:34:27 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:20:09 -0400, "V for Vendicar" m wrote: "Jeff Strickland" wrote The facts on the ground trump anything you read in book, or make up out of thin air. Actually the facts are in the ground, where the vast bulk of the earth's biomass resides in the form of Bacteria. And also in your own body, where bacterial cells outnumber your own cells by 10 to 1. So no matter how you slice it, bacteria are the most successful animals on earth. Good point. Except for the part about bacteria being animals ... Picky. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... Except for the part about bacteria being animals ... Picky. Liar. |
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On Jul 14, 9:24*pm, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:50 -0500, (Geoff *Miller) wrote: Horse genitals. Man is the dominant species on the planet. *If a species of animal can't adapt to man's promixity, and it lacks the brains to migrate, then it deserves to become extinct. Can I get a "Whoooaaa, mankind!" from those assembled? Geoff You obviously have no idea how totally dependent we are on the existence of other species! Such ignorance seems to be endemic these days.... Whether we are dependent on them or not is a matter of debate. The fact remains, we are superior to every other living organism on the planet. The problem for animals is that man moves in and takes over. When man comes and goes, the animals easily adapt to the transient nature of the passing, just as they adapt to the transient passing of a predator. |
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On Jul 14, 9:24*pm, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:50 -0500, (Geoff *Miller) wrote: Horse genitals. Man is the dominant species on the planet. *If a species of animal can't adapt to man's promixity, and it lacks the brains to migrate, then it deserves to become extinct. Can I get a "Whoooaaa, mankind!" from those assembled? Geoff You obviously have no idea how totally dependent we are on the existence of other species! Such ignorance seems to be endemic these days.... Whether we are dependent on them or not is a matter of debate. The fact remains, we are superior to every other living organism on the planet. The problem for animals is that man moves in and takes over. When man comes and goes, the animals easily adapt to the transient nature Transient Nature?: http://www.alandoutoftime.com/images...to03_72dpi.jpg http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/e...3.asp#extended Hunters, fishermen call for curbs on oil and gas drilling Two top-ranking U.S. Forest Service officials from the Clinton administration today pitched in on a campaign by hunters and fishermen to rein in oil and gas development in five Rocky Mountain states. The drilling has skyrocketed under the Bush administration, alienating many in the hook-and-bullet crowd. The group calls itself Sportsmen for Responsible Energy Development. Johah oil field near Pinedale, Wyoming, where a recent study found mule deer abundance dipped more than 40 percent after intensive oil and gas drilling occurred. Photo/Sportsmen For Responsible Energy Development Introducing a "new vision" (PDF) of how federal oil and gas leases should be awarded were Mike Dombeck, chief of the Forest Service under Clinton and on into the early Bush administration, and Chris Wood, Dombeck's old aide, who is now chief operating officer at Trout Unlimited. Said Wood: Sportsmen support the wise use of energy resources from our public lands. What we are unwilling to do is sit idly by while short-term energy development decisions compromise the lands. It's interesting how these hunters and fishers seem down on Bush now, even though many probably voted for him a least once. Course, that can be said of many voters nowadays, as well. And Wood wan't shy about bringing up the politics of the matter, saying: Sportsmen matter in the West. We matter politically and we matter economically. Joined by former Wyoming Game and Fish Director John Baughman, Dombeck and Wood released a new report focused on the increased oil and gas drilling that they say is having a big impact from Montana to New Mexico. Dombeck emphasized that the report "is not about dissecting a problem ad nauseum, it's about looking at the challenges in front of us and looking for solutions that can be implemented in a common-sense, doable way." They reached their conclusions after a fairly exhaustive process that involved sending questionnaires to experts, then convening about 200 of them for a meeting. Here's what they're recommending: A new emphasis reflecting the principle that oil and gas leases "grant a right to develop – and not a property right – that is conditional upon the agency's ability to manage for fish, wildlife, water resources and other multiple uses." No new leases should be granted until all those older than 10 years have been revised to better protect wildlife. (Hmmm… those would be leases granted under the Clinton administration.) Drilling plans should be done at the appropriate scale, realizing that natural ecosystems cross political boundaries. This would take into account, for example, that mule deer winter in Bureau of Land Management acreage and summer in land managed by the Forest Service. The government needs to set forth hands-off areas, clearly too rich in wildlife for allowing any drilling, and withdraw them from consideration. Caps need to be placed on how much surface can be disturbed, and how bad of an impact will be allowed. Federal oil- and gas-drilling rules should be at least as strong as protections required by state fish and game agencies' plans and objectives. Oil and gas development decisions should comply with the Governor's Association Wildlife Corridors Initiative Oil and Gas Working Group Report(PDF). This itself is another list of things to consider, such as accounting for crucial habitat, monitoring impacts, and using incentives to motivate the private sector. The campaign claims to speak for speak for "hunters, anglers, businesses and organizations from across the West." Posted by Robert McClure at July 21, 2008 12:56 p.m. of the passing, just as they adapt to the transient passing of a predator. |
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