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Magilla,
He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate, being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing bad for Tyler, like it or not. -Philip "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Hey douchebag Laffery, Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince the CAS to get around that RULE? There is no legal case here. Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal fees. As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no 15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead. Magilla B. Lafferty wrote: "Carl Sundquist" wrote in message news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05... "B. Lafferty" wrote in message ink.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers? Or are there four seperate challenges? Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful. Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the silver? I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he put in for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-) |
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Philmore,
I'm not saying it looks good right now for Tyler (I was simply responding to Lafferty's post in which he implies that the Russian and Australian federations have a legitimate case - they don't and they WILL lose). We need to await the science to play out in his arbitration hearing. Remember, Tyler did say it was "an incredible story." Let's see what it is. Who knows why Tyler tested positive. I'm willing to let the science answer that. All this stuff people say in here without knowing any of the details is irrelevant. Although it's really unfortunate to see an attorney (Lafferty) taking part in the clique of accusations and innuendo. Magilla Philip W. Moore, Jr. wrote: Magilla, He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate, being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing bad for Tyler, like it or not. -Philip "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Hey douchebag Laffery, Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince the CAS to get around that RULE? There is no legal case here. Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal fees. As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no 15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead. Magilla B. Lafferty wrote: "Carl Sundquist" wrote in message news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05... "B. Lafferty" wrote in message hlink.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers? Or are there four seperate challenges? Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful. Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the silver? I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he put in for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-) |
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Philmore,
I'm not saying it looks good right now for Tyler (I was simply responding to Lafferty's post in which he implies that the Russian and Australian federations have a legitimate case - they don't and they WILL lose). We need to await the science to play out in his arbitration hearing. Remember, Tyler did say it was "an incredible story." Let's see what it is. Who knows why Tyler tested positive. I'm willing to let the science answer that. All this stuff people say in here without knowing any of the details is irrelevant. Although it's really unfortunate to see an attorney (Lafferty) taking part in the clique of accusations and innuendo. Magilla Philip W. Moore, Jr. wrote: Magilla, He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate, being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing bad for Tyler, like it or not. -Philip "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Hey douchebag Laffery, Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince the CAS to get around that RULE? There is no legal case here. Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal fees. As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no 15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead. Magilla B. Lafferty wrote: "Carl Sundquist" wrote in message news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05... "B. Lafferty" wrote in message hlink.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers? Or are there four seperate challenges? Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful. Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the silver? I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he put in for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-) |
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Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement. "B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." |
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Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement. "B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." |
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kaiser Wrote: Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting bumped-up to silver after making such a statement. "B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Not that much difference between a bronze and a silver. And given it would come at the expense of the friend, Bobby probably doesn't have any appetite in joining the chorus. -- meb |
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kaiser Wrote: Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting bumped-up to silver after making such a statement. "B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Not that much difference between a bronze and a silver. And given it would come at the expense of the friend, Bobby probably doesn't have any appetite in joining the chorus. -- meb |
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Carl Sundquist Wrote: "B. Lafferty" wrote in message k.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers? Or are there four seperate challenges? Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the silver? Yes. Russia on behalf of Eki and Australia on behalf of Rogers, the Australians joined in the Russian suit so it is just one suit. -- meb |
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Carl Sundquist Wrote: "B. Lafferty" wrote in message k.net... Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging Tyler's Gold medal a 1. Ekimov 2. Russian Olympic Committee 3. Michael Rogers 4. Australian Olympic Committee Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times: One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?" Julich took a deep breath. "I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to explain it," he said. Then, a pause. "There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I don't know how he's going to get out of it." Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers? Or are there four seperate challenges? Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the silver? Yes. Russia on behalf of Eki and Australia on behalf of Rogers, the Australians joined in the Russian suit so it is just one suit. -- meb |
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Where did you hear "Det. van Adder dropped blood all over the crime scene?"
Sorry that should read Vannatter dropped blood all over the crime scene. And in the Bronco. And on a sock. |
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