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Old December 22nd 05, 11:39 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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my drivers licence is up for renewal.
I reckon I should have to re-sit, at least, a written exam before I get
my photo taken again.

There's a big difference from be able to drive a car, to being able to
drive a car according to the rules of the road.

I not a very good driver, too many blind spots & I don't take very much
on faith which means I'm that bloke indicating & taking ages to merge or
pull out into a major road.

Imagine not owning a car?
So much freed up disposable cash to chuck about.

Is it true you can drive anywhere you want on Frazer Island? So much
freedom, so many accidents......


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Old December 23rd 05, 12:11 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Marx SS Wrote:
my drivers licence is up for renewal.
I reckon I should have to re-sit, at least, a written exam before I
get my photo taken again.


I don't think that's such a bad idea. When I was in the forces I made
a point of reading the Highway Code before going back to the UK 'cause
the road rules are quite different.



Imagine not owning a car?
So much freed up disposable cash to chuck about.

We're a one car couple and always have been. It's only since we've
come to Australia though that I've been able to ride; in UK Suzie
relied on public transport when I needed the car and I had no choice
but to drive.


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Old December 23rd 05, 01:48 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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From a 2 car/1 bike couple, to a 1 car/ 4 bike couple, is our 2005.


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Old December 23rd 05, 10:55 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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EuanB wrote:
Marty Wrote:

Euan wrote:

"Marty" == Marty writes:


Not on a racetrack, no, but you are required to know the


stopping

distance for each speed and it is something that is tested.


No

amount of training can equip you for driving, in traffic, at


that

sort of speed. Reigning in those speeds to something


sensible is

very much a ``Yes Minister'' brave decsision. Keep the same
quality of training and reduce the speed drivers do and I


suspect

the road toll would plummet.


Marty Stopping distances are purely academic. Any truckie that
Marty drives a decent sized truck or road train will tell you


that

Marty they simply can't stop. If you jump out in front front of


a

Marty speeding sedan it will screech to a halt in a cloud of


smoke,

Marty whereas a truck will simply honk it's horn and run over


you

Marty and stop about five hundred metres up the road.

How does that demonstrate that knowing what the stopping distance of
your vehicle is at a give speed is not worthwhile? All you've done


is

state the obvious.


For a cyclist or pedestrian we only need to know if a vehicle will
stop
before or after it hits us. The actual distance isn't important.

Marty



And we're talking about licencing requirmenets for *drivers*. So
where's the relevence?



Last post on this.
I don't know of anyone that drives according to their stopping distance.
Nearly everyone drives according to what speed the law will allow them
to, or faster if they think they won't get caught.

Have a safe Christmas.
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Old December 23rd 05, 11:55 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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"Marty" == Marty writes:

Marty EuanB wrote:
Marty Wrote:
Euan wrote:
"Marty" == Marty writes:


Not on a racetrack, no, but you are required to know the
stopping

distance for each speed and it is something that is tested.
No

amount of training can equip you for driving, in traffic, at
that

sort of speed. Reigning in those speeds to something
sensible is

very much a ``Yes Minister'' brave decsision. Keep the same
quality of training and reduce the speed drivers do and I
suspect

the road toll would plummet.


Marty Stopping distances are purely academic. Any truckie that
Marty drives a decent sized truck or road train will tell you
that

Marty they simply can't stop. If you jump out in front front of
a

Marty speeding sedan it will screech to a halt in a cloud of
smoke,

Marty whereas a truck will simply honk it's horn and run over
you

Marty and stop about five hundred metres up the road.
How does that demonstrate that knowing what the stopping
distance of your vehicle is at a give speed is not worthwhile?
All you've done
is

state the obvious.
For a cyclist or pedestrian we only need to know if a vehicle
will stop before or after it hits us. The actual distance isn't
important.

Marty

And we're talking about licencing requirmenets for *drivers*. So
where's the relevence?


Marty Last post on this. I don't know of anyone that drives
Marty according to their stopping distance. Nearly everyone drives
Marty according to what speed the law will allow them to, or faster
Marty if they think they won't get caught.

Well you don't know me, do you?

Marty Have a safe Christmas.

You too.
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Old December 27th 05, 01:19 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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"Random Data" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:42:11 +1100, Resound wrote:

The ones who don't are the boofheads who have found out how much fun
corners can be if you get them right. I used to be in that catagory.


By "right" I assume you mean "wrong", in an arse-hanging out kind of way?

It certainly started out that way. Then I started seeing how fast I could
go around the corner before the arse came out. Then I worked out that that
sort of thing belongs on the racetrack.


 




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