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Some total brain dead ****wit who also cross posted to aus-cars wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:09:19 +1000, PiledHigher wrote: It isn't just cars that use fuel. Think of aircraft, ships, trucks, trains. They all use fuel. Yep, but different types and therefore not neccessarily affected as much and for some of them it actually doesn't matter.. Do I care? NOPE, I am immensely happy because it might just mean I see less mass produced crap being brought into and distributed around this country. That can only be good for employment. |
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Dave Wrote: It isn't just cars that use fuel. Think of aircraft, ships, trucks trains. They all use fuel. So when the price of fuel goes up, everyone pays because the cost o just about everything goes up to compensate. Planes could use a rubberband like my balsawood model when i was a ki ( images of hippy going OS on the 'tricksta-assassin ) ships can use solar/sails like the new scandinavian shipping liners Trucks, well... Trains are 'relatively' efficient and would negate the need for muc longdistance trucking and we could stop importing so much and thus reliant on so muc transport and return to the village model we left behind and negate th need for 'sea-changing' as it would be in our backyard already! F"political-rant"Dutc -- flyingdutch |
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There's no doubt that people will bitch and moan about these increased
petrol prices but still buy the same amount of petrol and drive the same distance with the same (expensive) car, year in year out. What I want to know is where these people get the money from?! They seem to be the same people with an unaffordable mortgage, the latest gadgets, a new car and, yes, the house in that new 'country' estate just next to the freeway where they join the traffic queue at the same time every morning. These 60-70 kg (probably more) lazy *******s sitting in their 1 tonne (probably more) vehicles pumping out ****ey exhaust fumes are the most selfish, pathetic and downright stupid people in the country. However, next time you ride to work, take note of how many of these small bodies you see in their rows of cars and realise... they are the voting majority. Jo and Joe Average run the country, don't they!? -- Bean Remove "yourfinger" before replying |
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Sad, I clearly fit the grumpy old man stereotype and I didn't think I was
that old... just very jaded obviously! "I don't belieeeeve it!" -- Bean Remove "yourfinger" before replying "PiledHigher" wrote in message ... Terry Collins Wrote: I hope you watched the first part of Grumpy Old Men at 8pm on ABC TV tonight {:-). Taped it by accident! Gold! Say it loud & proud, I'm a grumpy old man! -- PiledHigher |
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On 2005-04-12, eddiec wrote:
It's a pity all we're hearing is bitching and demands for removal of taxes. The only positive thing I've seen is an automotive column starting to talk about more fuel efficient cars - 'bout bloody time after guzzling 4wds, falcons and rx8s... I remember reading somewhere -- probably another Usenet group -- about a very interesting proposal. It comes in several steps. 1) Estimate the likely price increases for oil over the next fifty years. 2) *Triple* it. So if the current price is a dollar a barrel, and in fifty years it's estimated to be a hundred dollars and one dollars a barrel, the price rise will be $100; the figure then becomes 3*100 = $300. 3) Add taxes to oil, such that the price ramps up steadily to the eventual figure. eg: two years down the road, the price will be (2*300/50+1) = $13 a barrel. If the actual price increase is less than expected, raise the taxes to compensate; if it's greater, hopefully there's enough of a buffer in the taxes to absorb the difference. 4) (the *important* bit): Apply the taxes raised in this manner to research into alternate fuels. With luck, fifty years down the road, the need for oil is reduced to the point where it can be supplied domestically ... and the country is exporting the technology to the rest of the world. -- My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@" to "usenet". |
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On 2005-04-12, PiledHigher wrote:
So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a winge about it. That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago. And people wonder why I spent the high end of my budget on a unit in Mitcham... This morning's commute: * Fifteen minutes to Burwood Highway from my place -- call it Mitcham Station. * Five minutes from Burwood Highway to High Street Rd. * Five minutes from High Street Rd to the Glen. * Five minutes from the Glen to Waverley Road (near the aquatic centre). * Eight minutes from Waverley Road to the intersection of Blackburn Rd and the freeway. * Seven minutes from that intersection to walking in the door of my office at work. Total time: 45 minutes. Would've taken me longer by the time I parked in the free car parking and walked from there... -- My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@" to "usenet". |
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Travel time is a good point to make. It takes me exactly the same time
(almost down to the minute) from leaving home to arriving at work if I catch the bus or if I ride. It's possibly a 5 -10 min shorter trip by car, but I've been meaning to upgrade to a new bike which I am sure will cut at least 5 mins off my travel time (stiff rear hub - or at least that's my excuse). The difference in fuel cost is obviously enormous... when I ride I take an extra apple to work with me! -- Bean Remove "yourfinger" before replying "Stuart Lamble" wrote in message ... On 2005-04-12, PiledHigher wrote: So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a winge about it. That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago. And people wonder why I spent the high end of my budget on a unit in Mitcham... This morning's commute: * Fifteen minutes to Burwood Highway from my place -- call it Mitcham Station. * Five minutes from Burwood Highway to High Street Rd. * Five minutes from High Street Rd to the Glen. * Five minutes from the Glen to Waverley Road (near the aquatic centre). * Eight minutes from Waverley Road to the intersection of Blackburn Rd and the freeway. * Seven minutes from that intersection to walking in the door of my office at work. Total time: 45 minutes. Would've taken me longer by the time I parked in the free car parking and walked from there... -- My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@" to "usenet". |
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flyingdutch wrote: ... Trains are 'relatively' efficient and would negate the need for much longdistance trucking I agree with you about trucking, but suprisingly, the advances in car efficiency over the last couple of decades have brought modern diesel-powered cars ahead of trains in the long distance efficiency stakes. http://tinyurl.com/2wpyb That being said, my commute is faster, cheaper, cleaner and more enjoyable on a bike. The last time I drove to work (maybe a couple of months ago?), it took me about 40min each way. The bicycle takes me 25 minutes door to door. Even though I live within walking distance of one of Sydneys largest public transport hubs (Parramatta), and my workplace is within 2min walking distance of another train station, public transport would take approx the same time as driving. There's only one place to put blame of the complete lack of public transport infrastructure in the outer suburbs, and that's the state governments. btw, forget the $3/litre $100/barrel scare campaign going around the traps. By then, the petroleum industry will be back to shale oil (and other resource) extraction. /rant |
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PiledHigher wrote:
So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a winge about it. That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago. Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public transport. I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10 years. -- PiledHigher It was great riding to uni past the servos with the fuel up at $1.10 (this is V. Expensive for BrisVegas) Wave to the drivers.... Tam |
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I'm just spewing that for the first time in my life I've got a job can't ride to (200km round trip doesn't leave much time for working and now petrol goes up....... Perhaps I'm a "Motorist" now (and f*cking hating it, for the record) Perhaps that's why I'm starting to look like a motorist now, not a bik rider. Might have to get me some of them driving gloves...... and hat.......and start writin' to the 50-50 collumn about all them pesk cyclist out runing the roads and not payin' taxes like us motorists. Off to ring 3AW to complain about the guvmint now -- Shabby |
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