glueless patches

has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves when
they have some pressure put to them?

Had an issue with a repaired pinch flat, where the patch has lifted from the
puncture itself...

had just repaired it again, so will see how this goes... just curious if
anyone else has had this, or maybe I put the first one on badly...

"Andrew Morris" wrote in message
u...
has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves
when
they have some pressure put to them?

Had an issue with a repaired pinch flat, where the patch has lifted from
the
puncture itself...

had just repaired it again, so will see how this goes... just curious if
anyone else has had this, or maybe I put the first one on badly...


Maybe they've gotten better, but I've had no luck with glueless patches on
road bikes. Every one that I ever used eventually pulled loose and leaked.
Some took a few days to fail, others a few weeks. I don't use them anymore,
but I do keep some in my seat pack in case of emergencies as a backup to a
backup to a backup. Spare tube for first flat, then patch kit for the next
few, glueless patches after that.

The last time this question came up, some mtb'ers said they work just fine,
possibly because of the lower tire pressures.

Riding on with glue only,
Don

On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:49:24 +1100, "Andrew Morris"
wrote:

has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves when
they have some pressure put to them?

Yes. They are about as much use as a chocolate teapot. I carry spare
tubes and Rema Tip-Top patches, which are quick enough not to be an
issue.

On the other hand the lowest pressure at which I run tyres is 80psi.
40psi MTB tyres might well be OK with glueless patches as a
get-you-home.

Guy
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Andrew Morris wrote:

has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves when
they have some pressure put to them?

Yes, thousands of pepole have had this problem. That's why glueless
patches are a loser product.

Had an issue with a repaired pinch flat, where the patch has lifted from the
puncture itself...

Yes, this is to be expected with glueless patches.

had just repaired it again, so will see how this goes... just curious if
anyone else has had this, or maybe I put the first one on badly...

Good luck. My advice is to buy a proper patch kit for three bucks.

Sheldon "Not As If Real Patches Were Hard" Brown
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"Andrew Morris" wrote in message . au...
has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves when
they have some pressure put to them?

Had an issue with a repaired pinch flat, where the patch has lifted from the
puncture itself...

had just repaired it again, so will see how this goes... just curious if
anyone else has had this, or maybe I put the first one on badly...

I don't know that much about them but I thought they were supposed to
only be temporary, a patch to get you home. Then you put on a
permanant, glue on.

K

RE/
has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves when
they have some pressure put to them?

Occasionally, but the biggest problem with them IMHO is that the tub is toast
once one peels off. The goop it leaves behind can't be removed enough to put
on a "real" patch and subsequent glueless patches don't seem to hold on it.

Trash the tube and switch to glueable patches.
--
PeteCresswell

Sheldon Brown wrote:
Sheldon "Not As If Real Patches Were Hard" Brown

There is the frozen glue problem; and the too-old glue problem, this in areas
where you don't get many flats and so your glue expires by the time you need it.

And, with modern tubes, the damn-glue-doesn't-work-anyway problem.

This is all solved by carrying an extra tube. You need one as a hedge
against a blowout with or without a patch kit.

There's also the opposite school, which is mine at the moment, that flats
are rare enough on commutes that it just presents an opportunity to walk home
one day instead, and to hell with the toolkit entirely.
--
Ron Hardin


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On 21 Dec 2003 06:46:17 -0800, (Kevin) wrote:

I don't know that much about them but I thought they were supposed to
only be temporary, a patch to get you home. Then you put on a
permanant, glue on.

Why bother? Like the man says, it's not like ordinary patches are
hard.

Guy
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:06:38 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote:

There's also the opposite school, which is mine at the moment, that flats
are rare enough on commutes that it just presents an opportunity to walk home
one day instead, and to hell with the toolkit entirely.

Yep, that's me. Never had a single flat since I switched to MTBs 3
years ago. I commute 11 miles daily year round, soon to be 17-18
miles. I carry no patch kit, no tubes and no pump. I don't even know
where my patch kit is anymore. It probably wouldn't do me any good in
0F temperatures anyway.

has anyone had any problems with glueless patches unsticking themselves
when
they have some pressure put to them?

Had an issue with a repaired pinch flat, where the patch has lifted from
the
puncture itself...

had just repaired it again, so will see how this goes... just curious if
anyone else has had this, or maybe I put the first one on badly...

The first time I used glueless, I had a horrific experience. After having
some very nice mechanics help me air my patched tube 100 psi, it only held
air for 10 minutes. Approx. eight o'clock that morning I gave up and waited
in front of a bike shop until they opened. I bought a new tube. My first
time was also my last. Back to using REMA 'glueful' patches and these still
work as advertised. Good stuff. Glueless patches elimate the need to carry
a little tube of rubber cement but how great of an inconvience is this
anyway?

Dave