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Old June 22nd 15, 02:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
john B.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:11:53 +0200, Tosspot
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On 22/06/15 02:25, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:39:29 -0700, "Mark J."
wrote:

On 6/21/2015 1:42 PM, jbeattie wrote:

I got tired of wrestling with the quick links and bought the pliers (and never looked back). KMC specifies that its 11 speed "MissingLinks" are single use.

It's 10sp version is reusable (and I have opened and closed them with no
problems). The SRAM "PowerLock" is single use in 10sp.

The literature says you have to remove it with a "chain tool" -- and I
assume that includes pliers. Anyway, you can probably remove and
reinstall a KMC 10 speed.

Yes, the KMC 10 S quick-link is hand-removable and reusable, per my
repeated experience. On rare occasions when the chain is very dirty,
hand removal is difficult; a few squirts of thin oil and flexing the
links a bit fixes this. Perhaps that flushes out grit that is binding
the link's "removal" motion.

For the OP, SRAM 8- and 9-speed quick links are hand-removable and
reusable, though see the note above about dirty chains. In contrast,
SRAM 10-speed quick links are advertised - by SRAM - as single-use.

BTW, what technique do you (or others) use for cleaning chains on the bike?

Soak overnight in kerosene/mineral spirits (in a 2-liter soda bottle).
Then soak for an hour or two in a concentrated solution of Simple Green
(degreaser product) and hot water. Agitation optional. Then rinse
briefly in warm water (all in 2-liter soda bottles) - agitation
recommended. Wipe most of the water off with a rag, then hang dry
(don't use the clothes dryer, not even on delicate).

The kerosene cuts the crud, the simple green flushes out most of the
black grit. This scheme is intended to be NON-labor intensive, except
for fishing the chains out of the soda bottles with a spoke end, which
takes only a little practice.

Mark J.


When cleaning chains "on the bike" as the gentleman originally said,
how do you get it into a 2-liter soda bottle ?


Ride a Brompton?

A small Brompton? Or a very large bottle? :-)
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cheers,

John B.

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Old June 22nd 15, 02:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 6/22/2015 8:06 AM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:11:53 +0200, Tosspot
wrote:

On 22/06/15 02:25, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:39:29 -0700, "Mark J."
wrote:

On 6/21/2015 1:42 PM, jbeattie wrote:

I got tired of wrestling with the quick links and bought the pliers (and never looked back). KMC specifies that its 11 speed "MissingLinks" are single use.

It's 10sp version is reusable (and I have opened and closed them with no
problems). The SRAM "PowerLock" is single use in 10sp.

The literature says you have to remove it with a "chain tool" -- and I
assume that includes pliers. Anyway, you can probably remove and
reinstall a KMC 10 speed.

Yes, the KMC 10 S quick-link is hand-removable and reusable, per my
repeated experience. On rare occasions when the chain is very dirty,
hand removal is difficult; a few squirts of thin oil and flexing the
links a bit fixes this. Perhaps that flushes out grit that is binding
the link's "removal" motion.

For the OP, SRAM 8- and 9-speed quick links are hand-removable and
reusable, though see the note above about dirty chains. In contrast,
SRAM 10-speed quick links are advertised - by SRAM - as single-use.

BTW, what technique do you (or others) use for cleaning chains on the bike?

Soak overnight in kerosene/mineral spirits (in a 2-liter soda bottle).
Then soak for an hour or two in a concentrated solution of Simple Green
(degreaser product) and hot water. Agitation optional. Then rinse
briefly in warm water (all in 2-liter soda bottles) - agitation
recommended. Wipe most of the water off with a rag, then hang dry
(don't use the clothes dryer, not even on delicate).

The kerosene cuts the crud, the simple green flushes out most of the
black grit. This scheme is intended to be NON-labor intensive, except
for fishing the chains out of the soda bottles with a spoke end, which
takes only a little practice.

Mark J.

When cleaning chains "on the bike" as the gentleman originally said,
how do you get it into a 2-liter soda bottle ?


Ride a Brompton?

A small Brompton? Or a very large bottle? :-)
--
cheers,

John B.


Custom Dutch frame with geometry by Escher.

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