Double to Triple

MSA wrote:
wrote:

I cannot find anyone selling the Veloce triple crankset. I think its
around $120.

Less in the UK, and Xenon and Mirage's are remarkably cheap if steel /
steel&alloy rings are acceptable.

See http://www.dotbike.com

and http://www.parker-international.co.uk

~PB


But Xenon & Mirage are 9 speed. Russell, you say it makes no
difference...can't be right?

It is right. Makes no difference. Cranksets don't care. When
Campagnolo went to 10 speed, they milled a new outer ring (labeled 10
speed) so the teeth would be closer to the frame. This reduces the gap
between the teeth on the outer ring and inner ring on 10 speed
cranksets. Fractions of a mm different. In use it makes no
difference. Put a 9 speed crankset on and a 10 speed chain and all
will be well.



Why the different products then, am I missing something?

Campagnolo sells 9 and 10 speed systems. They want to differentiate
them to the consumer.


I'm guessing
it must be the width of the chain that makes the difference,

Chain is different between 9 and 10 speed.


hence a
different rear der,

No. Same rear derailleurs. Not sure of the product line now, but for
many years you could get Record, Chorus, Centaur/Daytona in either 9 or
10 speed. Same rear derailleur. Just different label. One saying 9
speed and the other saying 10 speed.



and different cassettes,

Yes.



but the same fr. der.

Yes.



Yours confused.


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Mark
______________________________________
Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

There is one minor actual difference between Campag 9 and 10sp rear
derailleurs now: 9sp jockey wheel WASHERS are thicker but this shouldn't
matter this way round: 9sp derailleur with 10sp chain. (The other way did
matter in my experience).

~PB

There is one minor actual difference between Campag 9 and 10sp rear
derailleurs now: 9sp jockey wheel WASHERS are thicker but this shouldn't
matter this way round: 9sp derailleur with 10sp chain. (The other way did
matter in my experience).

~PB

Great answers guys, thank you.

So cost wise (UK), my best option is a Xenon/Mirage/Veloce 9 speed
triple crankset, and a 9 speed Xenon/Mirage/Veloce medium rear
derailleur, and any front derailleur for a triple crankset.

Not sure what size BB I have, but I will try it on what I have and see
how it runs/changes...guess that's the best way?

--
Mark
______________________________________
Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

MSA wrote:
There is one minor actual difference between Campag 9 and 10sp rear
derailleurs now: 9sp jockey wheel WASHERS are thicker but this shouldn't
matter this way round: 9sp derailleur with 10sp chain. (The other way did
matter in my experience).

~PB

Great answers guys, thank you.

So cost wise (UK), my best option is a Xenon/Mirage/Veloce 9 speed
triple crankset, and a 9 speed Xenon/Mirage/Veloce medium rear
derailleur, and any front derailleur for a triple crankset.

LONG cage rear derailleur. LONG.




Not sure what size BB I have, but I will try it on what I have and see
how it runs/changes...guess that's the best way?

You have the 111 mm bottom bracket if you have a double Veloce crankset
now.


--
Mark
______________________________________
Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

wrote:
MSA wrote:
So cost wise (UK), my best option is a Xenon/Mirage/Veloce 9 speed
triple crankset, and a 9 speed Xenon/Mirage/Veloce medium rear
derailleur, and any front derailleur for a triple crankset.

LONG cage rear derailleur. LONG.

Or medium if sure you'll never want a bottom gear lower than 26x26 and
don't want to use the smallest 4 rear sprockets + inner chainring.

It's only recently that the Campag "long" cage has become extra long. The
Medium is equivalent to the older "Triple" mechs that Campag users used
without problems for ages (some with smaller than standard chainrings).

~PB