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Do bicycles and cars mix?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:13:43 GMT, "George Conklin"
wrote: Uncovered is not uninsulated. They were not in a outer covering, like BX or Romex. They were simply wires loose and held from moving around by ceramic (often white) insulators nailed to the beams of the house. Does anyone believe how stupid this guy is? |
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Do bicycles and cars mix?
In article K8sBb.348403$275.1146126@attbi_s53,
Brent P wrote: In article , Matthew Russotto wrote: Aluminum wire doesn't fail in the wire runs; it fails at the receptacles, switches, etc. Which are in boxes if conduit is used. They're in boxes if Romex is used too. -- Matthew T. Russotto "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of a modicum of security is a very expensive vice. |
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Do bicycles and cars mix?
In article . net, George Conklin wrote:
"Brent P" wrote in message news:xnpBb.347344$275.1144720@attbi_s53... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: "Brent P" wrote in message newsvmBb.478810$HS4.3704337@attbi_s01... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: What is a total replacement? My daughter had a total plumbing replacement. It was a type of plumbing which was known to fail and flood houses. You didn't say that it was plumbing of inferior quality before, you just left that out implying it was an age related failure. Yes, 12 years is too old for much plastic plumbing. It is an age-related issue. Your knowledge base is very little. You don't get it. 12 years old is much too young to replace plumbing. If were made out of proper materials and installed with good workmanship it would last considerably longer. It was the use of cheap, poor materials, that is in fact a design flaw. Your knowledge base is very limited once again. You live in a very limited world. I note that you don't have a response. Material choice is a design decision. If one doesn't get a decent life out of the material chosen, it is a design flaw. |
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Do bicycles and cars mix?
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:50 GMT, DTJ wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:13:43 GMT, "George Conklin" wrote: Uncovered is not uninsulated. They were not in a outer covering, like BX or Romex. They were simply wires loose and held from moving around by ceramic (often white) insulators nailed to the beams of the house. Does anyone believe how stupid this guy is? There was wiring like this in my basement when we moved in. The house is 120 or so yrs old. -- Brandon Sommerville remove ".gov" to e-mail Definition of "Lottery": Millions of stupid people contributing to make one stupid person look smart. |
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Do bicycles and cars mix?
"Brent P" wrote in message news:nGvBb.486092$HS4.3731857@attbi_s01... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: "Brent P" wrote in message news:xnpBb.347344$275.1144720@attbi_s53... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: "Brent P" wrote in message newsvmBb.478810$HS4.3704337@attbi_s01... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: What is a total replacement? My daughter had a total plumbing replacement. It was a type of plumbing which was known to fail and flood houses. You didn't say that it was plumbing of inferior quality before, you just left that out implying it was an age related failure. Yes, 12 years is too old for much plastic plumbing. It is an age-related issue. Your knowledge base is very little. You don't get it. 12 years old is much too young to replace plumbing. If were made out of proper materials and installed with good workmanship it would last considerably longer. It was the use of cheap, poor materials, that is in fact a design flaw. Your knowledge base is very limited once again. You live in a very limited world. I note that you don't have a response. Material choice is a design decision. If one doesn't get a decent life out of the material chosen, it is a design flaw. All materials fail at some point. Some much faster than others. If you have that grey pipe held with clamps you are in deep trouble. National recalls cover only some of the houses. Otherwise, you need to do the job yourself. |
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"Brandon Sommerville" wrote in message s.com... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:50 GMT, DTJ wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:13:43 GMT, "George Conklin" wrote: Uncovered is not uninsulated. They were not in a outer covering, like BX or Romex. They were simply wires loose and held from moving around by ceramic (often white) insulators nailed to the beams of the house. Does anyone believe how stupid this guy is? There was wiring like this in my basement when we moved in. The house is 120 or so yrs old. -- Brandon Sommerville remove ".gov" to e-mail There is still a lot of knob wiring around, but it is probably not 120 years old. |
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Plumbing and Wiring
By far the most expensive maintenance of underground
utilities is in Manhattan, due to underground congestion. It's a U-shaped curve where moderate density is the sweet spot. =v= That certainly makes sense. Sunny Ladd's study found this for overall taxes too. =v= So we're all in agreement then: moderate density. Not Manhattan, not suburban sprawl. =v= In other words, precisely what New Urbanism/Smart Growth is advocating. _Jym_ |
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Do bicycles and cars mix? (Sierra Club and Sprawl)
George Conklin on the Sierra Club:
It is all the same rap, Jym. It is just that the anti-immigrant anti-growth movement was too open. =v= You really have no clue what you're talking about. The organizers of the Sierra Club's campaign against sprawl are excellent people, one of whom I know personally. That means nothing to you, of course, so I'll their work speak for itself: http://www.sierraclub.org/sprawl/ =v= There has been a concerted effort by the anti-immigration crowd to get the Club membership to support their goals. When put on the ballot, the membership has voted it down. They made an effort to climb onto the coattails of the popular campaign against sprawl and were rebuffed there, too. _Jym_ |
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In article . net, George Conklin wrote:
"Brent P" wrote in message news:nGvBb.486092$HS4.3731857@attbi_s01... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: "Brent P" wrote in message news:xnpBb.347344$275.1144720@attbi_s53... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: "Brent P" wrote in message newsvmBb.478810$HS4.3704337@attbi_s01... In article . net, George Conklin wrote: What is a total replacement? My daughter had a total plumbing replacement. It was a type of plumbing which was known to fail and flood houses. You didn't say that it was plumbing of inferior quality before, you just left that out implying it was an age related failure. Yes, 12 years is too old for much plastic plumbing. It is an age-related issue. Your knowledge base is very little. You don't get it. 12 years old is much too young to replace plumbing. If were made out of proper materials and installed with good workmanship it would last considerably longer. It was the use of cheap, poor materials, that is in fact a design flaw. Your knowledge base is very limited once again. You live in a very limited world. I note that you don't have a response. Material choice is a design decision. If one doesn't get a decent life out of the material chosen, it is a design flaw. All materials fail at some point. Some much faster than others. If you have that grey pipe held with clamps you are in deep trouble. National recalls cover only some of the houses. Otherwise, you need to do the job yourself. First, you are wrong, not all materials fail at some point. Ever hear of an endurance limit? This is the stress below which steel will *NEVER* fail in fatigue. 2nd, everytime you mention a modern cheap and nasty method used in newer homes you prove my point that old and well built is better than new and poorly built. You simply accept crappy building techniques that result in plumbing systems failing in 12 years that then require total replacement. I don't accept that. I require better systems that are servicable. And that's the great thing about well made older things as well, they weren't designed to wear out quick and then need replacement. They were generally designed to last a long time and be servicable. |
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