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2009 FIAC National Championships
The Federation of Independent Associations for Cycling (FIAC) invites
race organizers to consider hosting one or more of the following eight National Championships in 2009: Criterium, Cyclocross, Hill Climb,Individual Time Trials, Six-Day Track, Stage Race, Team Time Trial, and Track Omnium. For more information see the application form at http://www.fiac.us/natzapp.htm. Les Earnest, FIAC executive director |
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On Nov 18, 1:09*pm, Les Earnest wrote:
The Federation of Independent Associations for Cycling (FIAC) invites race organizers to consider hosting one or more of the following eight National Championships in 2009: Criterium, Cyclocross, Hill Climb,Individual Time Trials, Six-Day Track, Stage Race, Team Time Trial, and Track Omnium. For more information see the application form athttp://www.fiac.us/natzapp.htm. * * * * Les Earnest, FIAC executive director Considering that I am a member of one of your federation's independent associations, some may find this odd for me to point out, but here goes: it really doesn't do the FIAC any good to refer to its various championships as a National championship. Until the organization has a truly national membership, it is at best a farce to refer to it as nationals. Maybe you could call the events exactly what they are, FIAC Championships. Anything more is just silly. |
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"Scott" wrote in message
... it really doesn't do the FIAC any good to refer to its various championships as a National championship. Until the organization has a truly national membership, it is at best a farce to refer to it as nationals. Maybe you could call the events exactly what they are, FIAC Championships. Anything more is just silly. Scott, do you think that arguing semantics makes the slightest difference? Bicycle racers are bicycle racers. |
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On Nov 18, 3:06*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message ... it really doesn't do the FIAC any good to refer to its various championships as a National championship. *Until the organization has a truly national membership, it is at best a farce to refer to it as nationals. *Maybe you could call the events exactly what they are, FIAC Championships. *Anything more is just silly. Scott, do you think that arguing semantics makes the slightest difference? Bicycle racers are bicycle racers. Tom, Not really, but... it is still just frikkin' ridiculous to refer to those events as "National" championships. I bet Henry and ol' monkey farts are with me on this! |
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"Scott" wrote in message
... On Nov 18, 3:06 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: Scott, do you think that arguing semantics makes the slightest difference? Bicycle racers are bicycle racers. Not really, but... it is still just frikkin' ridiculous to refer to those events as "National" championships. But it is a National Championship if it is open to anyone from across the nation. If you want to argue anything else perhaps you ought to observe the participants in the junior championships or age categories in the USCF. I bet Henry and ol' monkey farts are with me on this! I'll bet that they're with ANY counter movement no matter what. |
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On Nov 18, 3:23*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:06 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: Scott, do you think that arguing semantics makes the slightest difference? Bicycle racers are bicycle racers. Not really, but... it is still just frikkin' ridiculous to refer to those events as "National" championships. But it is a National Championship if it is open to anyone from across the nation. If you want to argue anything else perhaps you ought to observe the participants in the junior championships or age categories in the USCF. I bet Henry and ol' monkey farts are with me on this! I'll bet that they're with ANY counter movement no matter what. I may be wrong on this, but I believe the events are open to license- holders from the various independent associations, which isn't exactly a nation-wide representation. Frankly, calling the winners of the various FIAC National Championship events 'national champions' is about as absurd as calling the winner of the World Series or SuperBowl a world champion. Might as well call 'em the intergalactic championships. |
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2009 FIAC National Championships
"Scott" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:23 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:06 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: Scott, do you think that arguing semantics makes the slightest difference? Bicycle racers are bicycle racers. Not really, but... it is still just frikkin' ridiculous to refer to those events as "National" championships. But it is a National Championship if it is open to anyone from across the nation. If you want to argue anything else perhaps you ought to observe the participants in the junior championships or age categories in the USCF. I bet Henry and ol' monkey farts are with me on this! I'll bet that they're with ANY counter movement no matter what. I may be wrong on this, but I believe the events are open to license- holders from the various independent associations, which isn't exactly a nation-wide representation. Frankly, calling the winners of the various FIAC National Championship events 'national champions' is about as absurd as calling the winner of the World Series or SuperBowl a world champion. Might as well call 'em the intergalactic championships. Have you seen the way France applies the word National to many of their races? At least many of their races are written up or referred to as nationals in their archives. They use the word quite liberally besides their yearly nats in summer. I am exaggerating a bit when I say everything seems like a national championship over there, but still... Robert |
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2009 FIAC National Championships
Scott wrote:
On Nov 18, 1:09*pm, Les Earnest wrote: The Federation of Independent Associations for Cycling (FIAC) invites race organizers to consider hosting one or more of the following eight National Championships in 2009: Criterium, Cyclocross, Hill Climb,Individual Time Trials, Six-Day Track, Stage Race, Team Time Trial, and Track Omnium. For more information see the application form athttp://www.fiac.us/natzapp.htm. * * * * Les Earnest, FIAC executive director Considering that I am a member of one of your federation's independent associations, some may find this odd for me to point out, but here goes: it really doesn't do the FIAC any good to refer to its various championships as a National championship. Until the organization has a truly national membership, it is at best a farce to refer to it as nationals. Maybe you could call the events exactly what they are, FIAC Championships. Anything more is just silly. Scott Paper Towels, The designation of "U.S. national championships" is appropriate because the race is open to any citizen of the United States. So the potential membership pool is just as non-exclusive as USA Cycling's. Thanks, Magilla |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:06 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: I bet Henry and ol' monkey farts are with me on this! I'll bet that they're with ANY counter movement no matter what. Hey Kuney Island Psychlone, Is Pepsi a "counter-movement" to Coke? Is Lowe's a counter-movement to The Home Depot? How about Burger King vs. McDonalds? Goddamn, you are stupid. Thanks, Magilla |
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