thoughts from chris carmichael on lance deing dehydrated

An elite cyclist has three main obstacles on the road to success: crashing,
bonking, and getting dehydrated. Lance Armstrong lost over six kilograms of
body weight between waking up and finishing Stage 12 yesterday, all of it
fluid. That's 8% of his body weight! The fact that he lost some of his power
was understandable, and the facts he rode as well as he did yesterday and
today are remarkable.

Of a cyclist's three main obstacles, crashing is sometimes preferable
because if it is a minor fall, once you chase back on you can continue
racing at full power. On the hand, once you run out of either fuel (bonking)
or fluids (dehydration), there's no way to regain your power until you
replenish what you're missing. A 2% loss of body weight due to dehydration
leads to a 10-15% drop in sustainable power. If you lose 5-8% of your body
weight, you can lose at least 20% of your power. Such extreme fluid loss
also puts you at serious risk for heat exhaustion, a condition characterized
by a rise in core temperature due to a decreased ability to cool the body
through sweating.

Dehydration has other, more far-reaching effects on performance as well. In
an effort to continue racing at high speed, a dehydrated rider has to dig
very deep and expend more energy per unit time than normal. That means that
even though Lance was slower than usual during Stage 12, his effort level
was higher than normal. Recovering from such an effort, and replenishing his
lost fluids, takes time.

Lance Armstrong knew today was going to be tough. Your body is more
efficient at pulling fluids out of your body than it is replenishing them.
It takes more than 24 hours to recover from dehydrating to the extent he
did, no matter how much you drink. Following Stage 12, Lance consumed a lot
of water and a lot of sports drink in an effort to regain the fluids,
electrolytes, and energy he lost earlier in the day. By this morning, his
waking body weight (measured after using the bathroom) was nearly normal,
but he knew he would feel the lingering effects of the ordeal during Stage
13.

While Lance lacked some of his customary punch today, he diligently consumed
fluids throughout the stage and managed to contain his rivals. Finishing
seven seconds down on Jan Ullrich and passing Alexander Vinokorouv in the
final 500 meters of the stage was a great performance, all things
considered. Even more encouraging is Lance Armstrong's amazing ability to
recover from hard efforts. Part of what makes him a champion is his ability
to put in huge efforts on one stage, and then recover to be able to do it
again the following day.

Lance should be able to fully recover from the past two days and have a
strong performance during Stage 14. His goal is still to find opportunities
to attack and gain time on Jan Ullrich before Tuesday's rest day. Though his
legs may have wavered, Lance's will and character never do, and with a
strong team around him, he knows what he has to do to keep his yellow
jersey.

who is better to comment about what had happened and it's effect than the
athlete's own coach.
"David Ryan" wrote in message
...
How about a source besides the brain of Chris Carmichael?

dwjones wrote:

An elite cyclist has three main obstacles on the road to success:
crashing,
bonking, and getting dehydrated. Lance Armstrong lost over six kilograms
of
body weight between waking up and finishing Stage 12 yesterday, all of
it
fluid. That's 8% of his body weight! The fact that he lost some of his
power
was understandable, and the facts he rode as well as he did yesterday
and
today are remarkable.

Of a cyclist's three main obstacles, crashing is sometimes preferable
because if it is a minor fall, once you chase back on you can continue
racing at full power. On the hand, once you run out of either fuel
(bonking)
or fluids (dehydration), there's no way to regain your power until you
replenish what you're missing. A 2% loss of body weight due to
dehydration
leads to a 10-15% drop in sustainable power. If you lose 5-8% of your
body
weight, you can lose at least 20% of your power. Such extreme fluid loss
also puts you at serious risk for heat exhaustion, a condition
characterized
by a rise in core temperature due to a decreased ability to cool the
body
through sweating.

Dehydration has other, more far-reaching effects on performance as well.
In
an effort to continue racing at high speed, a dehydrated rider has to
dig
very deep and expend more energy per unit time than normal. That means
that
even though Lance was slower than usual during Stage 12, his effort
level
was higher than normal. Recovering from such an effort, and replenishing
his
lost fluids, takes time.

Lance Armstrong knew today was going to be tough. Your body is more
efficient at pulling fluids out of your body than it is replenishing
them.
It takes more than 24 hours to recover from dehydrating to the extent he
did, no matter how much you drink. Following Stage 12, Lance consumed a
lot
of water and a lot of sports drink in an effort to regain the fluids,
electrolytes, and energy he lost earlier in the day. By this morning,
his
waking body weight (measured after using the bathroom) was nearly
normal,
but he knew he would feel the lingering effects of the ordeal during
Stage
13.

While Lance lacked some of his customary punch today, he diligently
consumed
fluids throughout the stage and managed to contain his rivals. Finishing
seven seconds down on Jan Ullrich and passing Alexander Vinokorouv in
the
final 500 meters of the stage was a great performance, all things
considered. Even more encouraging is Lance Armstrong's amazing ability
to
recover from hard efforts. Part of what makes him a champion is his
ability
to put in huge efforts on one stage, and then recover to be able to do
it
again the following day.

Lance should be able to fully recover from the past two days and have a
strong performance during Stage 14. His goal is still to find
opportunities
to attack and gain time on Jan Ullrich before Tuesday's rest day. Though
his
legs may have wavered, Lance's will and character never do, and with a
strong team around him, he knows what he has to do to keep his yellow
jersey.

dwjones wrote:

how did i plagiarize chris carmichael's diary entry? just read the title to
the post. it is quite clear that the words in my post was his.

FFR, it is customary to provide a URL.

"Nick Burns" wrote in message
...

"dwjones" wrote in message

plagiarized Carmichael diary entry snipped

Duh. He means that you should give attribution, not an alternative.

David Ryan wrote in message ...
dwjones wrote:

how did i plagiarize chris carmichael's diary entry? just read the title to
the post. it is quite clear that the words in my post was his.

FFR, it is customary to provide a URL.

"Nick Burns" wrote in message
...

"dwjones" wrote in message

plagiarized Carmichael diary entry snipped

Duh. He means that you should give attribution, not an alternative.




Plagiarism is not the issue. Even with full attribution, it is,
strictly speaking, not legal to simply copy and post the entire piece
that was written by Carmichael. Doing so goes well beyond "Fair Use".

It is perfectly ethical to cite Carmichael's article, to directly
quote a few passages, to paraphrase other portions, and to give a link
to one of the sources. Your copy and paste job goes beyond bounds, and
infringes on copyright. However, "No harm, no foul", I suppose.....

In article _bjSa.99668$ye4.71709@sccrnsc01, dwjones
wrote:

who is better to comment about what had happened and it's effect than the
athlete's own coach.


He is not Lance's coach. He is a friend and advisor, and a not very
expert advisor at that. Lance's association with Chris is more about
friendship and publicity for Chris's company.

-WG


"David Ryan" wrote in message
...
How about a source besides the brain of Chris Carmichael?

dwjones wrote:

An elite cyclist has three main obstacles on the road to success:
crashing,
bonking, and getting dehydrated. Lance Armstrong lost over six kilograms
of
body weight between waking up and finishing Stage 12 yesterday, all of
it
fluid. That's 8% of his body weight! The fact that he lost some of his
power
was understandable, and the facts he rode as well as he did yesterday
and
today are remarkable.

Of a cyclist's three main obstacles, crashing is sometimes preferable
because if it is a minor fall, once you chase back on you can continue
racing at full power. On the hand, once you run out of either fuel
(bonking)
or fluids (dehydration), there's no way to regain your power until you
replenish what you're missing. A 2% loss of body weight due to
dehydration
leads to a 10-15% drop in sustainable power. If you lose 5-8% of your
body
weight, you can lose at least 20% of your power. Such extreme fluid loss
also puts you at serious risk for heat exhaustion, a condition
characterized
by a rise in core temperature due to a decreased ability to cool the
body
through sweating.

Dehydration has other, more far-reaching effects on performance as well.
In
an effort to continue racing at high speed, a dehydrated rider has to
dig
very deep and expend more energy per unit time than normal. That means
that
even though Lance was slower than usual during Stage 12, his effort
level
was higher than normal. Recovering from such an effort, and replenishing
his
lost fluids, takes time.

Lance Armstrong knew today was going to be tough. Your body is more
efficient at pulling fluids out of your body than it is replenishing
them.
It takes more than 24 hours to recover from dehydrating to the extent he
did, no matter how much you drink. Following Stage 12, Lance consumed a
lot
of water and a lot of sports drink in an effort to regain the fluids,
electrolytes, and energy he lost earlier in the day. By this morning,
his
waking body weight (measured after using the bathroom) was nearly
normal,
but he knew he would feel the lingering effects of the ordeal during
Stage
13.

While Lance lacked some of his customary punch today, he diligently
consumed
fluids throughout the stage and managed to contain his rivals. Finishing
seven seconds down on Jan Ullrich and passing Alexander Vinokorouv in
the
final 500 meters of the stage was a great performance, all things
considered. Even more encouraging is Lance Armstrong's amazing ability
to
recover from hard efforts. Part of what makes him a champion is his
ability
to put in huge efforts on one stage, and then recover to be able to do
it
again the following day.

Lance should be able to fully recover from the past two days and have a
strong performance during Stage 14. His goal is still to find
opportunities
to attack and gain time on Jan Ullrich before Tuesday's rest day. Though
his
legs may have wavered, Lance's will and character never do, and with a
strong team around him, he knows what he has to do to keep his yellow
jersey.

this is laughable when i get accused of infringing on copyright. this
article written from chris carmichael did not come from a paid site. it was
in the public domain that anyone could have access to. so lighten up and
take the butt plug out of your ass
"Isidor Gunsberg" wrote in message
om...
David Ryan wrote in message
...
dwjones wrote:

how did i plagiarize chris carmichael's diary entry? just read the
title to
the post. it is quite clear that the words in my post was his.

FFR, it is customary to provide a URL.

"Nick Burns" wrote in message
...

"dwjones" wrote in message

plagiarized Carmichael diary entry snipped

Duh. He means that you should give attribution, not an alternative.




Plagiarism is not the issue. Even with full attribution, it is,
strictly speaking, not legal to simply copy and post the entire piece
that was written by Carmichael. Doing so goes well beyond "Fair Use".

It is perfectly ethical to cite Carmichael's article, to directly
quote a few passages, to paraphrase other portions, and to give a link
to one of the sources. Your copy and paste job goes beyond bounds, and
infringes on copyright. However, "No harm, no foul", I suppose.....

then why does it say that he is armstrong's coach in his bio?
"warren" wrote in message
...
In article _bjSa.99668$ye4.71709@sccrnsc01, dwjones
wrote:

who is better to comment about what had happened and it's effect than
the
athlete's own coach.


He is not Lance's coach. He is a friend and advisor, and a not very
expert advisor at that. Lance's association with Chris is more about
friendship and publicity for Chris's company.

-WG


"David Ryan" wrote in message
...
How about a source besides the brain of Chris Carmichael?

dwjones wrote:

An elite cyclist has three main obstacles on the road to success:
crashing,
bonking, and getting dehydrated. Lance Armstrong lost over six
kilograms
of
body weight between waking up and finishing Stage 12 yesterday, all
of
it
fluid. That's 8% of his body weight! The fact that he lost some of
his
power
was understandable, and the facts he rode as well as he did
yesterday
and
today are remarkable.

Of a cyclist's three main obstacles, crashing is sometimes
preferable
because if it is a minor fall, once you chase back on you can
continue
racing at full power. On the hand, once you run out of either fuel
(bonking)
or fluids (dehydration), there's no way to regain your power until
you
replenish what you're missing. A 2% loss of body weight due to
dehydration
leads to a 10-15% drop in sustainable power. If you lose 5-8% of
your
body
weight, you can lose at least 20% of your power. Such extreme fluid
loss
also puts you at serious risk for heat exhaustion, a condition
characterized
by a rise in core temperature due to a decreased ability to cool the
body
through sweating.

Dehydration has other, more far-reaching effects on performance as
well.
In
an effort to continue racing at high speed, a dehydrated rider has
to
dig
very deep and expend more energy per unit time than normal. That
means
that
even though Lance was slower than usual during Stage 12, his effort
level
was higher than normal. Recovering from such an effort, and
replenishing
his
lost fluids, takes time.

Lance Armstrong knew today was going to be tough. Your body is more
efficient at pulling fluids out of your body than it is replenishing
them.
It takes more than 24 hours to recover from dehydrating to the
extent he
did, no matter how much you drink. Following Stage 12, Lance
consumed a
lot
of water and a lot of sports drink in an effort to regain the
fluids,
electrolytes, and energy he lost earlier in the day. By this
morning,
his
waking body weight (measured after using the bathroom) was nearly
normal,
but he knew he would feel the lingering effects of the ordeal during
Stage
13.

While Lance lacked some of his customary punch today, he diligently
consumed
fluids throughout the stage and managed to contain his rivals.
Finishing
seven seconds down on Jan Ullrich and passing Alexander Vinokorouv
in
the
final 500 meters of the stage was a great performance, all things
considered. Even more encouraging is Lance Armstrong's amazing
ability
to
recover from hard efforts. Part of what makes him a champion is his
ability
to put in huge efforts on one stage, and then recover to be able to
do
it
again the following day.

Lance should be able to fully recover from the past two days and
have a
strong performance during Stage 14. His goal is still to find
opportunities
to attack and gain time on Jan Ullrich before Tuesday's rest day.
Though
his
legs may have wavered, Lance's will and character never do, and with
a
strong team around him, he knows what he has to do to keep his
yellow
jersey.

"dwjones" wrote in message
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this is laughable when i get accused of infringing on copyright.

You mean like a joke?

this
article written from chris carmichael did not come from a paid site. it
was
in the public domain that anyone could have access to. so lighten up and
take the butt plug out of your ass
"Isidor Gunsberg" wrote in message
om...
David Ryan wrote in message
...
dwjones wrote:

how did i plagiarize chris carmichael's diary entry? just read the
title to
the post. it is quite clear that the words in my post was his.

FFR, it is customary to provide a URL.

"Nick Burns" wrote in message
...

"dwjones" wrote in message

plagiarized Carmichael diary entry snipped

Duh. He means that you should give attribution, not an
alternative.




Plagiarism is not the issue. Even with full attribution, it is,
strictly speaking, not legal to simply copy and post the entire piece
that was written by Carmichael. Doing so goes well beyond "Fair Use".

It is perfectly ethical to cite Carmichael's article, to directly
quote a few passages, to paraphrase other portions, and to give a link
to one of the sources. Your copy and paste job goes beyond bounds, and
infringes on copyright. However, "No harm, no foul", I suppose.....

Steve D wrote:
So Lance was the only one to dehydrate? And no won else did?
We've all read about how he is meticulous in his preparation. How
could this have happened? Nobody to bring him any bottles?...

Steve

He bonked on that climb in 1999. I wonder how many other top cyclists
have these occasional ****-ups.

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warren wrote:
For yourself, listen very carefully to what CC says about Lance's
training. Nearly all of the time he simply reports what Lance is doing.
He never/rarely mentions who told him what to do for training. And
watch him on the "prerace" shows and how he struggles to provide the
details of Lance's preparation. It's not surprising to me that CC
always looks so nervous on that show.

That fits, but I assigned it to confidentiality. And a lot of
discomfort with Kirsten Gum. :-)

You could also read the Ferrari interviews on cyclingnews.com and get
some hints about his involvement with Lance's training plans and where
he gets them.

-WG

CC is a former rider and coach, not an M.D.

--
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
"I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect
our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security."
--Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.