Scooter route - Murrieta/Temecula to South Orange CountyCalifornia

On Aug 21, 11:30�am, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

I have a few options

1. Ortega Highway
2 Tenaja Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road
4. Basilone Road (a little longer)

Is this a troll? Tenaja Road and Black Star Canyon Road probably
aren't even paved, they are fire roads through the national forest.

http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/

"little man upon the stair" wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 11:30�am, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

I have a few options

1. Ortega Highway
2 Tenaja Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road
4. Basilone Road (a little longer)

Is this a troll? Tenaja Road and Black Star Canyon Road probably
aren't even paved, they are fire roads through the national forest.

http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/


I never heard of them before. I did a search on Google Maps and those were
the possible routes from Murrieta/Temecula to Orange County.

I'd like to know why Google offered them as alternatives if they're unpaved
fire roads.

William R. Cousert wrote:


"little man upon the stair" wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 11:30�am, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

I have a few options

1. Ortega Highway
2 Tenaja Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road
4. Basilone Road (a little longer)

Is this a troll? Tenaja Road and Black Star Canyon Road probably
aren't even paved, they are fire roads through the national forest.

http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/


I never heard of them before. I did a search on Google Maps and those
were the possible routes from Murrieta/Temecula to Orange County.

I'd like to know why Google offered them as alternatives if they're
unpaved fire roads.



because google is a computer mapping program. as with any GPS disclaimer
im sure theres something said about "roads may not be useable or in
service- please use good judgement and common sense"

id drive whatever route first a few times in a car to get an idea of top
speed and technical parts, like curves, hills, and what other traffic
usually travels those roads at that time of day.

ive always wanted to try ortega, but i keep putting it off. im sure it
would be great fun on a TMax.

"little man upon the stair" wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 11:30�am, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

I have a few options

1. Ortega Highway
2 Tenaja Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road
4. Basilone Road (a little longer)

Is this a troll? Tenaja Road and Black Star Canyon Road probably
aren't even paved, they are fire roads through the national forest.

http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/

Try this

http://maps.google.com/

Click on Get Directions

Murrieta, CA to Anaheim, CA - walking - to avoid freeway directions

My options are
1. Temescal Canyon Road
2. Santiago Canyon Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road

I think my best option is probably to take Metrolink or move. This is too
much of a hassle.

On Aug 22, 9:34*pm, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

Murrieta, CA to Anaheim, CA - walking - to avoid freeway directions

My options are
1. Temescal Canyon Road
2. Santiago Canyon Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road

If you use the USGS link I posted, you can see satellite views of the
fire roads
across the mountains...

"Walking" is the same as "hiking". You could start hiking to work in
Anaheim
on Sunday and arrive there dusty and exhausted, then you could hike
back to Murrieta on Friday night, arriving home exhausted on Saturday
afternoon...

Again, I wonder if this is a troll, or if you don't live in Murrieta,
CA and don't know that the wilderness of the Cleveland national Forest
is between you and Orange County.

The *only* reasonable driving options are Ortega Highway (which is a
*dangerous*
road that has been defined by the Highway Patrol as a "safety
corridor") or the Corona Freeway.

I think my best option is probably to take Metrolink or move. This is too
much of a hassle.

Well, if you do move, find out where you can afford to live and then
find out what
kind of ethnic group lives there before you commit yourself to a lease
on an apartment or house.

On Aug 23, 5:31*am, little man upon the stair
wrote:

Again, I wonder if this is a troll

That's a bit like you wondering if a new-comer is a bitter failure
with no social or sex life, reduced 'managing' camp sites.

On Aug 23, 12:34�pm, "Weinie Bitin' Dawn" wrote:

That's a bit like you wondering if a new-comer is a bitter failure
with no social or sex life, reduced 'managing' camp sites.

If you keep picking at your scab, it will never heal...

On Aug 23, 2:00*pm, little man upon the stair
wrote:
On Aug 23, 12:34 pm, "Weinie Bitin' Dawn" wrote:

That's a bit like you wondering if a new-comer is a bitter failure
with no social or sex life, reduced 'managing' camp sites.

If you keep picking at your scab, it will never heal...

I realize this is a tall order, but if you must rely on canned
responses you've memorized, do try to pick one of them that fits the
context.

Or are you trying to gain sympathy by coming across mentally
challenged?

William R. Cousert wrote:


"little man upon the stair" wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 11:30�am, "William R. Cousert"
wrote:

I have a few options

1. Ortega Highway
2 Tenaja Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road
4. Basilone Road (a little longer)

Is this a troll? Tenaja Road and Black Star Canyon Road probably
aren't even paved, they are fire roads through the national forest.

http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/

Try this

http://maps.google.com/

Click on Get Directions

Murrieta, CA to Anaheim, CA - walking - to avoid freeway directions

My options are
1. Temescal Canyon Road
2. Santiago Canyon Road
3. Black Star Canyon Road

I think my best option is probably to take Metrolink or move. This is
too much of a hassle.



walking and scootering are quite different. I think ive been on santiago
and temescal before, years ago when i was dating someone in orange.
theyre scooterable, but i wouldnt try it on anything less than a 125cc,
at least the parts i was on.

On Aug 23, 3:02*pm, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:34:58 -0700, "William R. Cousert"

* * * * Microsoft Streets & Trips; configured to avoid freeway/limited
access and toll road, biased toward "arterial" roads over "other
highways". (snip)

Jeez. I don't think I ride that many different streets and roads on my
Seymour Rhodes tour to the Kern River as I try to avoid riding with
the 18 wheelers on the state highways...