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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry out HGVchecks.
Boris plans to scrap it.
Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote:
Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Repeat: a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
spindrift wrote:
City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Do you have a credible source (one not based on hearsay) to support that assertion? The police and/or VOSA usually issue press releases about such operations, especially if the results are sensational. Can you find one covering the event you describe? -- Matt B |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote:
Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. Turning to the issues of lorries, Inspector Aspinall told the meeting about a day of City of London spot checks on HGVs, carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way. Repeat: a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). In some cases the drivers were given a warning and in other cases there was a more formal police follow up. No information was given on convictions following this operation. Inspector Aspinall said that the London construction vehicle market (skips, cement mixers, construction materials haulage) was very tight and competitive. Shady operators with dubious standards and legality exerted a downward pressure on market prices and that was forcing even the more responsible companies to cut corners in order to win tenders .. Some companies were even factoring into their costs the inevitability of a certain number of fines for breaches of the law. I found this revelation shocking. http://thebikeshow.net/city-of-londo...orum/#more-342 |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 11:16*am, spindrift wrote:
On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote: Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Repeat: *a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). The question has just come up. |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
spindrift wrote:
Turning to the issues of lorries, Inspector Aspinall told the meeting about a day of City of London spot checks on HGVs, carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way. Repeat: a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). In some cases the drivers were given a warning and in other cases there was a more formal police follow up. No information was given on convictions following this operation. Inspector Aspinall said that the London construction vehicle market (skips, cement mixers, construction materials haulage) was very tight and competitive. Shady operators with dubious standards and legality exerted a downward pressure on market prices and that was forcing even the more responsible companies to cut corners in order to win tenders . Some companies were even factoring into their costs the inevitability of a certain number of fines for breaches of the law. I found this revelation shocking. http://thebikeshow.net/city-of-londo...orum/#more-342 Do you have a credible source (one not based on hearsay) to support the claim that such an event actually took place? Presumably, if did take place, you can find a police or VOSA press release describing it - or even a mention in the mainstream press? -- Matt B |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 12:27*pm, spindrift wrote:
On Oct 14, 11:16*am, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote: Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Repeat: *a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). The question has just come up. Although the webcast is bust: http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/webcasts.jsp |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 12:30*pm, spindrift wrote:
On Oct 14, 12:27*pm, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 11:16*am, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote: Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Repeat: *a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). The question has just come up. Although the webcast is bust: http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/webcasts.jsp Apparently Boris has been sending educational DVDs out to freight operators about taking appropriate care for cycles, who thinks that one is making a difference? I would suggest that HGV drivers in illegal vehicles who have no insurance couldn't give a flying **** about educational dvds. |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
spindrift wrote:
I would suggest that HGV drivers in illegal vehicles who have no insurance couldn't give a flying **** about educational dvds. You could be right, which is why the solution lies elsewhere. We need to concentrate more on the /real/ underlying cause of "accidents" involving trucks, and not be obsessed with irrelevant technicalities. Human nature is a "given", so the the laws of human nature need to accommodated, not defied. Would you trust a bridge, the safety of which relied on the law of gravity being defied? -- Matt B |
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There is only one police unit in London qualified to carry outHGV checks.
On Oct 14, 12:46*pm, spindrift wrote:
On Oct 14, 12:30*pm, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 12:27*pm, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 11:16*am, spindrift wrote: On Oct 14, 11:13*am, spindrift wrote: Boris plans to scrap it. Questions going to the Mayor tomorrow include: Will the cuts to the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit make London's roads less safe for cyclists? HGVs in London have a dreadful safety record. Because the HSE refuse to get involved in road deaths as opposed to deaths onsite, cyclists deaths are ignored on London's roads and penalties to killer drivers are laughable. The most dangerous vehilces, the ones that pose the greatest danger and the ones that are involved in a disproportionate number of deaths, are given even greater leeway to lumber around a medievel road layout unimpeded. City of London [Police] spot checks on HGVs [were] carried out on 30 September 2008 as part of the Europe-wide Operation Mermaid, which is intended to step up levels of enforcement of road safety laws in relation to lorries. On this one day, 12 lorries were stopped randomly by City Police. Five of those lorries were involved in the construction work for the 2012 Olympics. All of the twelve lorries were breaking the law in at least one way Repeat: *a 100 per cent criminality rate among small random sample of HGVs on the streets of central London. The offences range included overweight loads (2 cases), mechanical breaches (5 cases), driver hours breaches (5 cases), mobile phone use while driving (2 cases), driving without insurance (2 cases) and no operator license (1 case). The question has just come up. Although the webcast is bust: http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/webcasts.jsp Apparently Boris has been sending educational DVDs out to freight operators about taking appropriate care for cycles, who thinks that one is making a difference? I would suggest that HGV drivers in illegal vehicles who have no insurance couldn't give a flying **** about educational dvds. Appeal for witnesses to fatal collision, 29th June 0820, Kennington From Moving Target: My name is Anish Patel and I am the husband of Catriona [Cockburn] 1. On Monday 29th June at around 08.20, Catriona died as a result of a collision with a green Tipper lorry at Kennington Park Road, at the junction with Harleyford Street. I would like to make a personal appeal for anyone who was in the Oval area that morning , who saw Catriona or the tipper, to come forward as a potential witness. Even if you did not see the incident directly, you may still have useful information on the lead up to, or aftermath of the incident. So, please, I urge you to come forward. Any information, no matter how insignificant it may seem, may be crucial to the case. I and the entire family would like to understand what happened on that day and you may have seen something that is relevant. Please contact the Collision Investigation Unit Witness Line on 020 8941 9011 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 if you have any information. Many thanks, Anish. |
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