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Leo Lichtman wrote:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...0&srccode=2047 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note that this site has a heading reading "Titanium Chain." That must be the reason, but NOT FOR ME. I'll order titanium chain right after I get through installing monster cables on my cyclometer. But think of how much faster you'd ride with titanium!! Why, I'd bet almost half the weight of a chain is ROTATING MASS!!! when you're pedaling! You'd probably need carbon fiber derailer cables to dampen the vibration from the extra speed! Pat |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:08:55 -0400, David L. Johnson wrote:
8-speed chains, which your bike probably takes, should be $10-$15 at your local bike shop. SRAM/Sachs is a good brand. I like SRAM chains too, nice and quiet, and shift snappily. 10-15 gets you a plain steel chain (model p-58 I think). For around 20-30 you should get a nice nickel plated version that resists rust and looks bling. :P KMC is the most common brand of chain in the world, work fine, and are pretty cheap. They make the house brands for Nashbar, Wally World, and the rest. I use a KMC heavy duty single speed nickel chain on my single and it requires maintenance something like three times a year. Under thirty bucks gets you rolling. |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:52:55 GMT, Michael wrote:
The chain on my road bike has reached the magic 1/16-inch "stretch" point, so last night I Googled appropriately to do some pricing. The first site I hit is well known to most of you but I won't name it. There I found a pile of likely candidates, but my attention was almost immediately drawn away from the type of bike that each chain fits and to the prices. US$300+ ? For a chain?! US$200+? For a chain?! I seem to recall seeing a US$30-something chain down at the bottom of the list but I was so sticker-shocked by then that it didn't sink in until I'd logged off and toddled off to bed. Hey, my 10-speed cost under US$300, new (1979). Someone, *please* tell me how to get a decent replacement chain without hocking my first-born to pay for it. You went looking for a "ten speed" chain didn't ya? Well, since there is now a critical mass of bikes with triple chain wheels, the phrase "ten speed" means a bike with ten cogs in the BACK alone, to be multiplied of course by the number of chainwheels. It is that number of cogs that tells us what size chain you need, not the total number of possible combinations. Now this is all guess on my part, so tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm not, just go visit a bike store and spend the $12 - 14 a SRAM will cost and be done. You'll dig the master link concept. Ron |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:22:23 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...0&srccode=2047 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note that this site has a heading reading "Titanium Chain." That must be the reason, but NOT FOR ME. I'll order titanium chain right after I get through installing monster cables on my cyclometer. Monster sucks. And I don't mean that in a fussy, audiophile, cable sniffing way, I mean they produce crap cables with shoddy ends and **** poor assembly. There are much better cables available for less. And if you want the very best, that'll run ya, and it won't come from monster. Ron |
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"bfd" wrote in message
oups.com... Shame on you guys! You can easily get that same change for *under* $300 he http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.asp?PART_NUM_SUB='0326-00' Notice how Performance had the highest price of the 3 sites posted here, even though they were advertising it as 17% off? This just reinforces my notion that Performance is seldom as good a deal as it seems. -- Mike Kruger Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. -Ralph Waldo Emerson, writing before the mountain bike was invented. |
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maxo wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:08:55 -0400, David L. Johnson wrote: 8-speed chains, which your bike probably takes, should be $10-$15 at your local bike shop. SRAM/Sachs is a good brand. I like SRAM chains too, nice and quiet, and shift snappily. 10-15 gets you a plain steel chain (model p-58 I think). For around 20-30 you should get a nice nickel plated version that resists rust and looks bling. :P I'd love to know which shop sells a PC58 for under $15. Actually I'd love to know where you can even buy a PC48. They always want to sell me more chain than I need. KMC is the most common brand of chain in the world, work fine, and are pretty cheap. They make the house brands for Nashbar, Wally World, and the rest. I use a KMC heavy duty single speed nickel chain on my single and it requires maintenance something like three times a year. I've had bad luck with KMC chains lately. Single speed chains may be different, but their other ones suffer from poor assembly quality -- links that are either too loose or too tight. I had to spend a lot of time loosening tight links, and reparing the chain where the loose ones broke. I bought the KMC because it was cheaper. But it's no bargain. Under thirty bucks gets you rolling. It should be less than half that. Matt O. |
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rdclark wrote:
Please post a link to these $300 chains. I've never seen such a thing. Chains are available for $10-30 at all the normal outlets like Performance, Nashbar, Pricepoint, etc, as well as any bike shop. Even stainless steel chains for 10-sprocket cassettes are under $100, and Campy 10-speed chains are under $50. Maybe your browser is displaying in some weird font that adds a zero to strings that start with "$"? RichC At Performance Bike: Wippermann** Connex 9TR 9-speed Chain Reg: $399.99 Sale: $339.98 Wippermann** Connex 10TR 10-speed Chain Reg: $399.99 Sale: $329.98 |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:19:57 -0400, Matt O'Toole wrote:
maxo wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:08:55 -0400, David L. Johnson wrote: 8-speed chains, which your bike probably takes, should be $10-$15 at your local bike shop. SRAM/Sachs is a good brand. I like SRAM chains too, nice and quiet, and shift snappily. 10-15 gets you a plain steel chain (model p-58 I think). For around 20-30 you should get a nice nickel plated version that resists rust and looks bling. :P I'd love to know which shop sells a PC58 for under $15. Actually I'd love to know where you can even buy a PC48. They always want to sell me more chain than I need. I got my last pc58 from Nashbar for 12 bucks. Again, nice functioning chain, but seems to corrode easily--I do ride in sloppy weather though. KMC is the most common brand of chain in the world, work fine, and are pretty cheap. They make the house brands for Nashbar, Wally World, and the rest. I use a KMC heavy duty single speed nickel chain on my single and it requires maintenance something like three times a year. I've had bad luck with KMC chains lately. Single speed chains may be different, but their other ones suffer from poor assembly quality -- links that are either too loose or too tight. I had to spend a lot of time loosening tight links, and reparing the chain where the loose ones broke. I bought the KMC because it was cheaper. But it's no bargain. I've just used their single speed chains and love them, especially the nickel plated HD model, both on my single and my (now stolen) Nexus 7 bike. The old fashioned quick link is much easier to use than the Sram connector. The nickel plating seems impervious to Chicago winters and they stay magically lubed for a long time. Don't know about their derailleur chains. Under thirty bucks gets you rolling. It should be less than half that. Matt O. |
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RonSonic wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:52:55 GMT, Michael wrote: The chain on my road bike has reached the magic 1/16-inch "stretch" point, so last night I Googled appropriately to do some pricing. The first site I hit is well known to most of you but I won't name it. There I found a pile of likely candidates, but my attention was almost immediately drawn away from the type of bike that each chain fits and to the prices. US$300+ ? For a chain?! US$200+? For a chain?! I seem to recall seeing a US$30-something chain down at the bottom of the list but I was so sticker-shocked by then that it didn't sink in until I'd logged off and toddled off to bed. Hey, my 10-speed cost under US$300, new (1979). Someone, *please* tell me how to get a decent replacement chain without hocking my first-born to pay for it. You went looking for a "ten speed" chain didn't ya? Well, since there is now a critical mass of bikes with triple chain wheels, the phrase "ten speed" means a bike with ten cogs in the BACK alone, to be multiplied of course by the number of chainwheels. It is that number of cogs that tells us what size chain you need, not the total number of possible combinations. Now this is all guess on my part, so tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm not, just go visit a bike store and spend the $12 - 14 a SRAM will cost and be done. You'll dig the master link concept. Ron No, actually I went looking for chains in general. That first and only page that came up listed chains, chain rings, and other "chain" stuff, all listed in descending order of price. Which is why I was stunned almost immediately by a $399.99 chain. Although I bought the bike in 1979, I rode it only two years. Didn't pull it out again until 2002, but have ridden it a lot since then. So the chain that needed replacing is the one that was on the bike when I bought it. This old 10-speed with 27 x 1 1/4" wheels and center-pull brakes has given me fits sometimes when I've needed to replace certain parts; I got quizzical looks and "They haven't made that for years. Most bikes use [whatever] now." So when I innocently went looking for chain and was confronted by dear price tags, I figured I'd hit another "times have changed" situation. All is fine now. I drove 30 minutes to a bike shop and bought a $10 chain. |
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"Michael" wrote in message
... The chain on my road bike has reached the magic 1/16-inch "stretch" point, so last night I Googled appropriately to do some pricing. The first site I hit is well known to most of you but I won't name it. There I found a pile of likely candidates, but my attention was almost immediately drawn away from the type of bike that each chain fits and to the prices. US$300+ ? For a chain?! US$200+? For a chain?! I seem to recall seeing a US$30-something chain down at the bottom of the list but I was so sticker-shocked by then that it didn't sink in until I'd logged off and toddled off to bed. Hey, my 10-speed cost under US$300, new (1979). Someone, *please* tell me how to get a decent replacement chain without hocking my first-born to pay for it. I simply bought a new chain from my LBS for my old JCPenney 10 speed, it cost $13.50 if I remember right. Those fancy $300 chains are for those new super bikes that people get nowadays. |
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