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Deliberate Ramming
Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen;
"A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ks-stretch.htm "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday’s incident occurred when the driver “was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang,” adding “a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...-rage-cyclists Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? Oh. BTW Doug - do you have the figures yet for how many cyclists die through deliberate ramming - or are you still being a wriggling ******? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ks-stretch.htm "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday’s incident occurred when the driver “was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang,” adding “a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...-rage-cyclists The only time I've been knocked off my bike the motorist claimed to the police and her insurance company that I had "deliberately rammed" her car and broken her wing mirror. The only problem for her was there were witnesses (car drivers, not cyclists) who the police interviewed and who said she clearly drove into me not the other way round. She was also unable to produce any evidence of damage or receipts for having damage repaired. So don't believe everything that one side of the story tells you. I contacted Cambridge Police at the time over the Garlic Row and crack down article you linked to. This was their response: "This incident was reported to us as a crime and as such we are investigating this alleged offence. By all means, if we are able to talk to the cyclist involved we would be able to establish both sides of what happened. It seems just selected details from the alleged incident were included in the news story. It was the choice of the paper to seek out a crime involving a cyclist and not something the police actively sought to highlight. Our campaign is aimed at encouraging cyclists and drivers to be seen and be safe on the roads and this is what we wanted to highlight but we have limited control over how newspapers present this." So no "police target anti-social bike rage cyclists" then. On the Hills Road one, the Council put up signs telling motorists to follow cyclists into and through the road works and not try and overtake them. Tony |
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On Tue, 15 Mar, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ks-stretch.htm "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday’s incident occurred when the driver “was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang,” adding “a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." If the only account of the incident is from someone that didn't see the event, and didn't see the events immediately preceding the event, how does the spokesman know it was deliberate? The only explanation I can see is that the spokesman was the cyclist in question, so presumably the police can simply arrest him, and he'll plead guilty to criminal damage or assault or something. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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On Mar 15, 12:27*am, The Medway Handyman
wrote: Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; At last, thank you. "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...r-in-clash-at-... "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday s incident occurred when the driver was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang, adding a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...et-anti-social... Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? So what do you think the likelihood of a cyclist killing or injuring the motorist by this method? Do you have any figures for how many motorists die or are injured from deliberate ramming by cyclists? Oh. *BTW Doug - do you have the figures yet for how many cyclists die through deliberate ramming - or are you still being a wriggling ******? Why do you requite a precise figure, which is probably unobtainable anyway, and over what particular time period? It is sufficient surely that a few die or are seriously injured per year by ramming, according to a Google search? Probably thousands since the very beginning of car use in Britain. What useful conclusion would you hope to draw from any such precise number? -- . UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated). http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |
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Ian Smith wrote:
If the only account of the incident is from someone that didn't see the event, and didn't see the events immediately preceding the event, how does the spokesman know it was deliberate? In the US its known by the acronym SWSS - Single Witness Suicide Swerve where the driver swears the cyclist suddenly swerved in front of them and the dead cyclists fails to challenge it. Tony |
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On Mar 15, 1:54*pm, Tony Raven wrote:
Ian Smith wrote: If the only account of the incident is from someone that didn't see the event, and didn't see the events immediately preceding the event, *how does the spokesman know it was deliberate? In the US its known by the acronym SWSS - Single Witness Suicide Swerve where the driver swears the cyclist suddenly swerved in front of them and the dead cyclists fails to challenge it. And of course only a car-hater would automatically jump to the conclusion that the driver was lying. Maybe the cyclist swerved to avoid a pothole or an animal running out? Maybe they suddenly got a puncture? Maybe they had a fit? But no, the evil motorist shouldn't be driving in the first place, so must take the blame for all collisions regardless of actual fault. |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On Mar 15, 12:27 am, The Medway Handyman wrote: Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; At last, thank you. "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...r-in-clash-at-... "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday s incident occurred when the driver was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang, adding a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...et-anti-social... Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? So what do you think the likelihood of a cyclist killing or injuring the motorist by this method? Do you have any figures for how many motorists die or are injured from deliberate ramming by cyclists? Oh. BTW Doug - do you have the figures yet for how many cyclists die through deliberate ramming - or are you still being a wriggling ******? Why do you requite a precise figure, which is probably unobtainable anyway, and over what particular time period? It is sufficient surely that a few die or are seriously injured per year by ramming, according to a Google search? Probably thousands since the very beginning of car use in Britain. What useful conclusion would you hope to draw from any such precise number? you want a new law to cover it, so what is your evidence that it occurs often enough to justify a new law.? |
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On 15/03/2011 12:52, Doug wrote:
On Mar 15, 12:27 am, The Medway wrote: Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; At last, thank you. "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...r-in-clash-at-... "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday s incident occurred when the driver was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang, adding a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...et-anti-social... Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? So what do you think the likelihood of a cyclist killing or injuring the motorist by this method? Do you have any figures for how many motorists die or are injured from deliberate ramming by cyclists? No. Have you got the figures about cyclists killed by deliberate ramming yet you wriggling ******? Oh. BTW Doug - do you have the figures yet for how many cyclists die through deliberate ramming - or are you still being a wriggling ******? Why do you requite a precise figure, which is probably unobtainable anyway, and over what particular time period? It is sufficient surely that a few die or are seriously injured per year by ramming, according to a Google search? Probably thousands since the very beginning of car use in Britain. What useful conclusion would you hope to draw from any such precise number? If the figure is unobtainable why do you claim the action is 'commonplace'? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Deliberate Ramming
On 15/03/2011 00:27, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ks-stretch.htm "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday’s incident occurred when the driver “was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang,” adding “a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...-rage-cyclists Note that these are accounts of two separate incidents, in 2010 and 2009. In both cases we only have the drivers' claims of what happened. Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? Why? I expect existing legislation would cover any such incidents; if there was any independent proof that they ever happened. -- Graham Nye news(a)thenyes.org.uk |
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On 15/03/2011 19:02, Graham Nye wrote:
On 15/03/2011 00:27, The Medway Handyman wrote: Seems the Doug **** was right - deliberate ramming does happen; "A road rage cyclist rammed his bike into a car at a notorious Cambridge flashpoint between riders and motorists". http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ks-stretch.htm "The newspaper quoted a police spokesperson who said that last Wednesday’s incident occurred when the driver “was going to turn left but had to stop to give way to other cars when she heard a loud bang,” adding “a cyclist had deliberately rammed his bike into her car causing damage. She looked in her mirror and saw the cyclist speed off back along Garlic Row. He was angry because he had to stop and cycle around her car." http://road.cc/content/news/10482-ca...-rage-cyclists Note that these are accounts of two separate incidents, in 2010 and 2009. In both cases we only have the drivers' claims of what happened. Perhaps there should be a law against deliberate ramming using a cycle weapon? Why? I expect existing legislation would cover any such incidents; if there was any independent proof that they ever happened. That's a definite "whoosh". |
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