Tour de France SBS

Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on SBS
so repetative and downright boring. I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous", "the
peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway". It seems
their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they do them to
death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to death also.
Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail wind once they
turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I would love to hear
some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres, a bit about the bikes,
what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get away from the same old
stuff year after year from these two.

Cheers

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"Jammer" wrote:

Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on SBS
so repetative and downright boring. I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous", "the
peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway". It seems
their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they do them to
death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to death also.
Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail wind once they
turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I would love to hear
some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres, a bit about the bikes,
what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get away from the same old
stuff year after year from these two.

Cheers

Buy the book.
Turn down the sound.
Problem solved.
If you really think these commentators are bad then you haven't listened
to other cycling commentators, V8 Supercar race commentators or horse
race-callers. We are blessed with P & P.

cheers,
20cents

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:52:34 +0800, Jammer wrote:

Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on SBS
so repetative and downright boring.

we discussed this last year and bassically Phil was thought of a great
and Palu was 50-50 useless nunce or okay.

I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous",
"the peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway".

Agree with you on that this year, but to put it in context, the whole
race would be a total yawn and predictable as a classical ballet if the
organisers didn't give away random team spots to new blood teams. Yes,
Phil has said that too this year.

It seems their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they
do them to death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to
death also. Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail
wind once they turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I
would love to hear some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres,
a bit about the bikes, what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get
away from the same old stuff year after year from these two.

Naah, too technical for the target audience. SWMBO is the keenest watcher
here and she still need guidance to change a flat tyre and "oh gosh, you
have to put oil on the chain to make it easier to turn the pedals". Why
do you think they have the Gabriel Gateuea (sp?) session?

Oh wait, apparently they talked about someone (an aussie) dropping his
main chain rings from 53 to 52 to make it easier to get up the hills on
day one. Well, I had to explain that to SWMBO that night, so I guess they
must have had something technical. guess yiou just missed it.

Last night techo discussion here was why some riders have long seat post
and my reply was because they had longer legs (jst look at that second
guy in the break away group), but also I guess they are riding a
standardised bike so they can sacrifice their bike at any time for the
designated team leader.

Try catching the 6pm(?) short segment for less of the drivel or just turn
the sound down.




Cheers

"terryc" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:52:34 +0800, Jammer wrote:

Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on
SBS
so repetative and downright boring.

we discussed this last year and bassically Phil was thought of a great
and Palu was 50-50 useless nunce or okay.

I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous",
"the peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway".

Agree with you on that this year, but to put it in context, the whole
race would be a total yawn and predictable as a classical ballet if the
organisers didn't give away random team spots to new blood teams. Yes,
Phil has said that too this year.

It seems their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they
do them to death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to
death also. Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail
wind once they turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I
would love to hear some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres,
a bit about the bikes, what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get
away from the same old stuff year after year from these two.

Naah, too technical for the target audience. SWMBO is the keenest watcher
here and she still need guidance to change a flat tyre and "oh gosh, you
have to put oil on the chain to make it easier to turn the pedals". Why
do you think they have the Gabriel Gateuea (sp?) session?

Oh wait, apparently they talked about someone (an aussie) dropping his
main chain rings from 53 to 52 to make it easier to get up the hills on
day one. Well, I had to explain that to SWMBO that night, so I guess they
must have had something technical. guess yiou just missed it.

Last night techo discussion here was why some riders have long seat post
and my reply was because they had longer legs (jst look at that second
guy in the break away group), but also I guess they are riding a
standardised bike so they can sacrifice their bike at any time for the
designated team leader.

Try catching the 6pm(?) short segment for less of the drivel or just turn
the sound down.




Cheers

Thanks for the reply, I can't make the 6pm. I take your points, but I think
many people who stay up late to watch would be interested in a little more
technical info.

Cheers

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:33:30 +0800, Jammer wrote:

Thanks for the reply, I can't make the 6pm. I take your points, but I think
many people who stay up late to watch would be interested in a little more
technical info.

I have been corrected, SWMBO says she only watches it for the scenery.

I do agree with you though.

20cents wrote:

Buy the book.
Turn down the sound.
Problem solved.
If you really think these commentators are bad then you haven't listened
to other cycling commentators, V8 Supercar race commentators or horse
race-callers. We are blessed with P & P.

cheers,
20cents

I tune in to Triple J and listen to Roy and HG's call. (Wish)

Jammer wrote:

Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on SBS
so repetative and downright boring. I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous", "the
peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway". It seems
their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they do them to
death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to death also.
Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail wind once they
turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I would love to hear
some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres, a bit about the bikes,
what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get away from the same old
stuff year after year from these two.

Cheers

Yes, the commentary is boring, and the BBC coverage also is boring.

The fact is watching sport is boring.

But not when ya are playing sport.

Sometimes its like watching grass grow or watchin someone fishing.
Not a great deal happening.
And with cycling, its guys riding along roads, eyes fixed on each
other's arses and wheels.
Not much attacking, not much action, maybe someone clips a wheel,
and down they go, and that little dreadful agony hardly gets a mention
unless its a big name.


I find watchin TV is watchin other folks doin their llives when ya
should be doin your own.

Tonight's time trial will be a relief, because its the man against the
clock without
drafting.

Patrick Turner.

I noticed the repetition too. Like you, I think there's a lot they could
say about the technical aspects of the equipment, health and medicine
issues, etc etc. Maybe they need a few guests with specialist skills to drop
in on a frequent basis. As it is the whole set-up just shows a lack of
imagination on the part of the producer



"Jammer" wrote in message
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Hi,
I am wondering if it is just me or do others also find the commentary on
SBS so repetative and downright boring. I assume the commentators are Phil
Liggert and Paul Sherwen, my god these two just keep repeating the same
mantra over and over, " the back of the group is the most dangerous", "the
peloton may have left their run too late to catch the breakaway". It seems
their whole commentary centres around these two issues and they do them to
death, and then if they pick up on another one they do it to death also.
Last night if we heard about the bloody wind becoming a tail wind once
they turned the corner once we must have heard it 20 times. I would love
to hear some info on what gearing the guys are riding, tyres, a bit about
the bikes, what they eat while riding, just SOMETHING to get away from the
same old stuff year after year from these two.

Cheers

On 2008-07-08, terryc (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:33:30 +0800, Jammer wrote:

Thanks for the reply, I can't make the 6pm. I take your points, but I think
many people who stay up late to watch would be interested in a little more
technical info.

I have been corrected, SWMBO says she only watches it for the scenery.

I do agree with you though.

Are you comfortable with her watching loads of male bums, and calling
them "scenery"?

--
TimC
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
-- Robert R. Coveyou, Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

On 2008-07-08, Peter (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
20cents wrote:

Buy the book.
Turn down the sound.
Problem solved.
If you really think these commentators are bad then you haven't listened
to other cycling commentators, V8 Supercar race commentators or horse
race-callers. We are blessed with P & P.

I tune in to Triple J and listen to Roy and HG's call. (Wish)

www.audax.org.au/pdf/checkpoint/cpaut06.pdf
page 13.



--
TimC
Beating is one thing .... pounding accompanied by the shakes is a bit
unnerving -- Andrew Comeau in RHOD