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"byron27" wrote in message
... taken by itself its not so bad (so bad, relative, to say, getting your fingernails pulled out with electric pliers). The Alpe is a heartbreaker because it is usually the last climb of a stage, after climbing the galabier and the madeleine. That said, the first two switchbacks are nasty, nasty but its not too bad after that. The switchbacks are great to get a rest for a couple of secs and because it is back and forth up the mountain the visual impact is not so terrifying.I was quite surprised. I had more trouble getting up to chamrousse just outside of grenoble (used for the ITT in 2001) than the alpe. [snip] byron27 I saw a ITT in Grenoble in September up to the Fort de la Bastille, called Prix de la Bastille. This is the hill where the bubble cable cars, (the telegraphique I think it's called), goes.Very short maybe 3km but average gradient 20% with some really nasty switchback up to 28%. You could hardly walk up it. Seemed like a small club race but plenty of big names from the past holding records - Armstrong, Ulrich etc. A funny sight was watching all the fast french guys light up a smoke as soon as they'd crossed the line at the top! Adam |
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"stu" wrote in message
u Graident is up, up , up all the way isn't it? who would have thought it would be so hard to find a real map??? well it is, so this is the best I can do I found these: gradient profile: http://www.letour.fr/2004/us/profil....0&Language=ANG TdF map overview: http://www.beyond.fr/map/mptdf2004.html TdF map detail (stages 15-18): http://www.beyond.fr/map/mptdf03e.html I couldn't find a detailed map of the actual route. From the SBS web site: "This Time Trial up the famous L'Alpe d'Huez (Hors Categorie) starts with a flat 1.7km stretch but then it's the 13.8km climb at an average grade of 7.8 percent, with 21 switchbacks to the summit." -- A: Top-posters. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? |
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Apparentely there is approx 1 000 000 spectators up on the L'Alpe d'Huez! Bikesoiler, whilst sitting on lounge, has informed me that's almost the equivalent of 10 x MCG's plonked up on the slopes of Mt Buller. Hmm, whats the actual capacity of 'G there days? Happy viewing. -- cfsmtb |
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Hmm, whats the actual capacity of 'G there days? its about 80000 at the minute but when its finished again in late 2005 will be 95000(i think) |
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WHibyron27 wrote in message ...
taken by itself its not so bad (so bad, relative, to say, getting your fingernails pulled out with electric pliers). The Alpe is a heartbreaker because it is usually the last climb of a stage, after climbing the galabier and the madeleine. That said, the first two switchbacks are nasty, nasty but its not too bad after that. The switchbacks are great to get a rest for a couple of secs and because it is back and forth up the mountain the visual impact is not so terrifying.I was quite surprised. I had more trouble getting up to chamrousse just outside of grenoble (used for the ITT in 2001) than the alpe. Ventoux is like that. No switchbacks and a clear view to the top....great . Anyone have any times for their ride up the alpe? I did 51 minutes in 2001, and it was the best fun ive had for ages. So was riding back down!! Which would put you on about the same time as Matthew Wilson. Either you're a couldvebeen pro, a pro, a phenomenol climber or your clock was wrong !! |
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byron27 wrote in message ...
taken by itself its not so bad (so bad, relative, to say, getting your fingernails pulled out with electric pliers). The Alpe is a heartbreaker because it is usually the last climb of a stage, after climbing the galabier and the madeleine. That said, the first two switchbacks are nasty, nasty but its not too bad after that. The switchbacks are great to get a rest for a couple of secs and because it is back and forth up the mountain the visual impact is not so terrifying.I was quite surprised. I had more trouble getting up to chamrousse just outside of grenoble (used for the ITT in 2001) than the alpe. Ventoux is like that. No switchbacks and a clear view to the top....great . Anyone have any times for their ride up the alpe? I did 51 minutes in 2001, and it was the best fun ive had for ages. So was riding back down!! Actually scrath what I just posted. I'd cancel the post but I use crappy Google and once posted, is gone. Still 51 min is very impressive, you probabably timed it from the bottom ? Where as the tour stage started from a bit further back ? Out of curisoiyt, how much time did you spend out of the saddle ? |
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stu Wrote: Hmm, whats the actual capacity of 'G there days? its about 80000 at the minute but when its finished again in late 2005 will be 95000(i think) bring back the standing area in the outer!!! 110k back in the 70's before such trifling things as political correctness and safety issues were uinvented -- flyingdutch |
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A couple of things I noticed about last night: 1. The crowds. While I loved the atmosphere of yesterday's time trial, I think it was a tad dangerous for the riders who have so much at stake. Did you see Jan Ullrich get knocked on his hip by a spectator? There were some crazy spectators there. I basically agreed with Lance Armstrongs carefully selected words after the stage. 2. Motorbikes and exhaust fumes. Wouldn't those motorbikes give the riders the sh|ts. I know on my commute to work while riding the Yarra Blvd when a car goes past it's slightly irritating having to suck up the fumes. Imagine having motorbike(s) or cars in front of you the whole time? Parhaps they're finely tuned and have low emissions. -- jazmo |
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bring back the standing area in the outer!!! 110k back in the 70's before such trifling things as political correctness and safety issues were uinvented I thought the record was 118k but from the mcc web site As well as a world record for the most people to ever attend a baseball match during the 1956 Games, the VFL/AFL Grand Final record attendance was an amazing 121,000 people for the 1970 decider between Carlton and Collingwood. Its present capacity has been reduced as works take place to demolish and completely rebuild the Ponsford, members and northern stands, but once the redevelopment is complete it will boast a seating capacity in excess of 100,000. but I have seen other figures of 95k or things like "almost 100k", so who is up for helping me count them in early 2006??? |
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stu Wrote: As well as a world record for the most people to ever attend a baseball match during the 1956 Games, the VFL/AFL Grand Final record attendance was an amazing 121,000 people for the 1970 decider between Carlton and Collingwood. Its present capacity has been reduced as works take place to demolish and completely rebuild the Ponsford, members and northern stands, but once the redevelopment is complete it will boast a seating capacity in excess of 100,000. but I have seen other figures of 95k or things like "almost 100k", so who is up for helping me count them in early 2006??? [/color] more to the point, how much is 'dinkyDi' gonna cost??? I am a MCC member (got 2 actually :-) but only go there at half time/lunch to get drinks and food as the queues are non-existant and prices are lower than amongst the 'unwashed' Bays -- flyingdutch |
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