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On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:44:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/2/2017 1:51 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:00:13 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: On 02/08/2017 12:55 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 14:39, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 08:45, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/31/2017 5:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/31/2017 4:24 PM, wrote: What,abt the nww bike performance ? I find that new bike performance is limited by my old legs. YMMV ... and lungs. And ticker. Plus, the fire in my belly is largely gone. The fire sometimes comes back, though. We (my wife and I, riding tandem) were on a pretty leisurely club ride a couple weeks ago. A new young guy had showed up, and we were riding along chatting with him. He said he rides to stay in shape for his other sports, etc. As we talked, one of our club members who's notorious for such behavior decided to hit high gear and crank away out front for a while, then wait for the rest of the crew to catch up. When he did that, the newbie suddenly ended our conversation, saying something like "Excuse me now..." and took off. I though "Excuse me???" and told my wife "Let's go." So we reeled him in and were a comfortable ten feet behind when he caught the rabbit. For icing on the cake, our rabbit guy (as he always does) left the leisurely riders for the last five miles or so to crank in at 20 - 25 mph . My wife and I were close behind, and the newbie was a distant third. It was quite satisfying. But with a tandem, terrain is everything. If it weren't fairly flat, we'd happily ride back with the leisurely crowd. (P.S. Don't interpret this tale as a claim that I could stick with Jay, Tom or Duane, let alone James.) I'm old and slow. I wouldn't ride with you because you'd be in the middle of the road. I'd keep saying, "hey Frank, get over here. You're going to get whacked." You would scold me for being a gutter bunny, although I don't ride on the fog line and rarely ride anywhere with a gutter. We'd ride up on Joerg who would have a pannier full of water, a couple CPUs and a growler. He'd be complaining about psychopaths in cars and the fact that his Gazelle didn't come with factory rack-mounts and room for 35mm steel belted tires or a o-ring chain. He'd have to stop every fifteen minutes to pee. I don't think this NG would want to ride together. Only one pee on a 4-5h ride. My PSA test came back 0.4ng/ml so no "urge to go" from that department. However, I might bow out of the r.b.t. peloton the millisecond I spot a brewpub. You son would probably already be in the next county by then and leave us old farts behind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ My feeling on the matter is: Do NOT drink a 12-pack of beer the nite before riding the 5 Miles of Hell trail in Utah. No 12-packs from the store here, it's only our own brew. The good stuff. Depends where you buy your beer. My local store has an awesome selection: http://www.rainydayportland.com/2012...multnomah.html Here is our Marco's Cafe, in the middle of this page: http://www.gonewiththewynns.com/gold-country-ca Great place. Food is mediocre at best but good brews and good live music. With dancing. Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. I don't know. My boss just brought me a bottle of Elijah Craig 12 year old small batch bourbon. They don't sell it in Quebec but she lives in Ontario. Not sure what you mean by artisanal liquor but this stuff is good. Makes me miss New Orleans where I can grab it at the Breaux Mart along with my tasso and andouille. I don't have the palate, and brown liquor tends to give me a headache. When the Scotch snobs convene, I zone out and leaf through Velo News. I follow beer a little bit because it is a big economic driver around here and basically a local pastime like Timbers' soccer or flogging Donald Trump. http://oregoncraftbeer.org/facts/ We do have a burgeoning craft distilling culture, but going to a single tasting would disable me for a week. I was getting some post-ski pizza with the family in Hood River and stumbled across a craft-ish distillery tasting room. It looked very inviting. http://www.drinkmemag.com/wp-content...-in-Oregon.jpg My wife looked at me and shook her head. Too far home on the Gorge in winter . . . at night. Yep, Oregon is special, just like everyone else: https://www.deathsdoorspirits.com/ Cool name, which from my experience is about half the battle. I'm going to this place and create my own brand. http://citrusdistillers.com/create-brand/create-vodka/ -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 02/08/2017 4:04 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:44:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/2/2017 1:51 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:00:13 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: On 02/08/2017 12:55 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 14:39, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 08:45, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/31/2017 5:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/31/2017 4:24 PM, wrote: What,abt the nww bike performance ? I find that new bike performance is limited by my old legs. YMMV ... and lungs. And ticker. Plus, the fire in my belly is largely gone. The fire sometimes comes back, though. We (my wife and I, riding tandem) were on a pretty leisurely club ride a couple weeks ago. A new young guy had showed up, and we were riding along chatting with him. He said he rides to stay in shape for his other sports, etc. As we talked, one of our club members who's notorious for such behavior decided to hit high gear and crank away out front for a while, then wait for the rest of the crew to catch up. When he did that, the newbie suddenly ended our conversation, saying something like "Excuse me now..." and took off. I though "Excuse me???" and told my wife "Let's go." So we reeled him in and were a comfortable ten feet behind when he caught the rabbit. For icing on the cake, our rabbit guy (as he always does) left the leisurely riders for the last five miles or so to crank in at 20 - 25 mph . My wife and I were close behind, and the newbie was a distant third. It was quite satisfying. But with a tandem, terrain is everything. If it weren't fairly flat, we'd happily ride back with the leisurely crowd. (P.S. Don't interpret this tale as a claim that I could stick with Jay, Tom or Duane, let alone James.) I'm old and slow. I wouldn't ride with you because you'd be in the middle of the road. I'd keep saying, "hey Frank, get over here. You're going to get whacked." You would scold me for being a gutter bunny, although I don't ride on the fog line and rarely ride anywhere with a gutter. We'd ride up on Joerg who would have a pannier full of water, a couple CPUs and a growler. He'd be complaining about psychopaths in cars and the fact that his Gazelle didn't come with factory rack-mounts and room for 35mm steel belted tires or a o-ring chain. He'd have to stop every fifteen minutes to pee. I don't think this NG would want to ride together. Only one pee on a 4-5h ride. My PSA test came back 0.4ng/ml so no "urge to go" from that department. However, I might bow out of the r.b.t. peloton the millisecond I spot a brewpub. You son would probably already be in the next county by then and leave us old farts behind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ My feeling on the matter is: Do NOT drink a 12-pack of beer the nite before riding the 5 Miles of Hell trail in Utah. No 12-packs from the store here, it's only our own brew. The good stuff. Depends where you buy your beer. My local store has an awesome selection: http://www.rainydayportland.com/2012...multnomah.html Here is our Marco's Cafe, in the middle of this page: http://www.gonewiththewynns.com/gold-country-ca Great place. Food is mediocre at best but good brews and good live music. With dancing. Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. I don't know. My boss just brought me a bottle of Elijah Craig 12 year old small batch bourbon. They don't sell it in Quebec but she lives in Ontario. Not sure what you mean by artisanal liquor but this stuff is good. Makes me miss New Orleans where I can grab it at the Breaux Mart along with my tasso and andouille. I don't have the palate, and brown liquor tends to give me a headache. When the Scotch snobs convene, I zone out and leaf through Velo News. I follow beer a little bit because it is a big economic driver around here and basically a local pastime like Timbers' soccer or flogging Donald Trump. http://oregoncraftbeer.org/facts/ We do have a burgeoning craft distilling culture, but going to a single tasting would disable me for a week. I was getting some post-ski pizza with the family in Hood River and stumbled across a craft-ish distillery tasting room. It looked very inviting. http://www.drinkmemag.com/wp-content...-in-Oregon.jpg My wife looked at me and shook her head. Too far home on the Gorge in winter . . . at night. Yep, Oregon is special, just like everyone else: https://www.deathsdoorspirits.com/ Cool name, which from my experience is about half the battle. I'm going to this place and create my own brand. http://citrusdistillers.com/create-brand/create-vodka/ -- Jay Beattie. Just saw a favorite pub of mine from New Orleans on Facebook touting some Sour Orange beer. What's this world coming to? |
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On 2017-08-02 09:55, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 14:39, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 08:45, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/31/2017 5:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/31/2017 4:24 PM, wrote: What,abt the nww bike performance ? I find that new bike performance is limited by my old legs. YMMV ... and lungs. And ticker. Plus, the fire in my belly is largely gone. The fire sometimes comes back, though. We (my wife and I, riding tandem) were on a pretty leisurely club ride a couple weeks ago. A new young guy had showed up, and we were riding along chatting with him. He said he rides to stay in shape for his other sports, etc. As we talked, one of our club members who's notorious for such behavior decided to hit high gear and crank away out front for a while, then wait for the rest of the crew to catch up. When he did that, the newbie suddenly ended our conversation, saying something like "Excuse me now..." and took off. I though "Excuse me???" and told my wife "Let's go." So we reeled him in and were a comfortable ten feet behind when he caught the rabbit. For icing on the cake, our rabbit guy (as he always does) left the leisurely riders for the last five miles or so to crank in at 20 - 25 mph . My wife and I were close behind, and the newbie was a distant third. It was quite satisfying. But with a tandem, terrain is everything. If it weren't fairly flat, we'd happily ride back with the leisurely crowd. (P.S. Don't interpret this tale as a claim that I could stick with Jay, Tom or Duane, let alone James.) I'm old and slow. I wouldn't ride with you because you'd be in the middle of the road. I'd keep saying, "hey Frank, get over here. You're going to get whacked." You would scold me for being a gutter bunny, although I don't ride on the fog line and rarely ride anywhere with a gutter. We'd ride up on Joerg who would have a pannier full of water, a couple CPUs and a growler. He'd be complaining about psychopaths in cars and the fact that his Gazelle didn't come with factory rack-mounts and room for 35mm steel belted tires or a o-ring chain. He'd have to stop every fifteen minutes to pee. I don't think this NG would want to ride together. Only one pee on a 4-5h ride. My PSA test came back 0.4ng/ml so no "urge to go" from that department. However, I might bow out of the r.b.t. peloton the millisecond I spot a brewpub. You son would probably already be in the next county by then and leave us old farts behind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ My feeling on the matter is: Do NOT drink a 12-pack of beer the nite before riding the 5 Miles of Hell trail in Utah. No 12-packs from the store here, it's only our own brew. The good stuff. Depends where you buy your beer. My local store has an awesome selection: http://www.rainydayportland.com/2012...multnomah.html Here is our Marco's Cafe, in the middle of this page: http://www.gonewiththewynns.com/gold-country-ca Great place. Food is mediocre at best but good brews and good live music. With dancing. Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. Marcos is kind of a dump (but about the only place you could buy espresso drinks 30-40 years ago in PDX). I was posting the picture of the dumpy market down the street with the massive beer collection. They have a zillion bottles and some really arcane stuff. Even the store that is about a third of a mile from my house has a good beer selection. There is a growler fill place across the street from that. You have to like to home brew as a hobby because it is super-easy to just walk down the street and buy a good beer. I have too many other chores to spend time home brewing, but maybe I'll try it when I retire. Well, here in the People's Republic of California we have myriad nonsensical rules such as no growler sales at any place that doesn't brew right then and there. Then myriad taxes and "fees" (a.k.a. taxes) which makes a growler fill cost $15-$20 instead of you $10 and the whole picture turns pretty bleak. A growler with Belgian Tripel costs north of $20 and I can make five gallons (which equals 10 growlers) for under $60. Money or distance isn't the reason for me. For example, yesterday I rode up to Placerville on singletrack and had a beer at a brewery, could have brought back a growler. However, a growler with two people mweans you'll be drinking the same beer all night. Also, I like to experimnent a bit with the recipes so we have some beers now that you cannot buy anywhere. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2017-08-02 13:14, Duane wrote:
On 02/08/2017 4:04 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:44:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/2/2017 1:51 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:00:13 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: On 02/08/2017 12:55 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 14:39, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 08:45, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/31/2017 5:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/31/2017 4:24 PM, wrote: What,abt the nww bike performance ? I find that new bike performance is limited by my old legs. YMMV ... and lungs. And ticker. Plus, the fire in my belly is largely gone. The fire sometimes comes back, though. We (my wife and I, riding tandem) were on a pretty leisurely club ride a couple weeks ago. A new young guy had showed up, and we were riding along chatting with him. He said he rides to stay in shape for his other sports, etc. As we talked, one of our club members who's notorious for such behavior decided to hit high gear and crank away out front for a while, then wait for the rest of the crew to catch up. When he did that, the newbie suddenly ended our conversation, saying something like "Excuse me now..." and took off. I though "Excuse me???" and told my wife "Let's go." So we reeled him in and were a comfortable ten feet behind when he caught the rabbit. For icing on the cake, our rabbit guy (as he always does) left the leisurely riders for the last five miles or so to crank in at 20 - 25 mph . My wife and I were close behind, and the newbie was a distant third. It was quite satisfying. But with a tandem, terrain is everything. If it weren't fairly flat, we'd happily ride back with the leisurely crowd. (P.S. Don't interpret this tale as a claim that I could stick with Jay, Tom or Duane, let alone James.) I'm old and slow. I wouldn't ride with you because you'd be in the middle of the road. I'd keep saying, "hey Frank, get over here. You're going to get whacked." You would scold me for being a gutter bunny, although I don't ride on the fog line and rarely ride anywhere with a gutter. We'd ride up on Joerg who would have a pannier full of water, a couple CPUs and a growler. He'd be complaining about psychopaths in cars and the fact that his Gazelle didn't come with factory rack-mounts and room for 35mm steel belted tires or a o-ring chain. He'd have to stop every fifteen minutes to pee. I don't think this NG would want to ride together. Only one pee on a 4-5h ride. My PSA test came back 0.4ng/ml so no "urge to go" from that department. However, I might bow out of the r.b.t. peloton the millisecond I spot a brewpub. You son would probably already be in the next county by then and leave us old farts behind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ My feeling on the matter is: Do NOT drink a 12-pack of beer the nite before riding the 5 Miles of Hell trail in Utah. No 12-packs from the store here, it's only our own brew. The good stuff. Depends where you buy your beer. My local store has an awesome selection: http://www.rainydayportland.com/2012...multnomah.html Here is our Marco's Cafe, in the middle of this page: http://www.gonewiththewynns.com/gold-country-ca Great place. Food is mediocre at best but good brews and good live music. With dancing. Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. I don't know. My boss just brought me a bottle of Elijah Craig 12 year old small batch bourbon. They don't sell it in Quebec but she lives in Ontario. Not sure what you mean by artisanal liquor but this stuff is good. Makes me miss New Orleans where I can grab it at the Breaux Mart along with my tasso and andouille. I don't have the palate, and brown liquor tends to give me a headache. When the Scotch snobs convene, I zone out and leaf through Velo News. I follow beer a little bit because it is a big economic driver around here and basically a local pastime like Timbers' soccer or flogging Donald Trump. http://oregoncraftbeer.org/facts/ We do have a burgeoning craft distilling culture, but going to a single tasting would disable me for a week. I was getting some post-ski pizza with the family in Hood River and stumbled across a craft-ish distillery tasting room. It looked very inviting. http://www.drinkmemag.com/wp-content...-in-Oregon.jpg My wife looked at me and shook her head. Too far home on the Gorge in winter . . . at night. Yep, Oregon is special, just like everyone else: https://www.deathsdoorspirits.com/ Cool name, which from my experience is about half the battle. I'm going to this place and create my own brand. http://citrusdistillers.com/create-brand/create-vodka/ -- Jay Beattie. Just saw a favorite pub of mine from New Orleans on Facebook touting some Sour Orange beer. What's this world coming to? Very normal these days. Here is the selection of beers including sours from one of my cycling stops: http://mrazbrewingcompany.com/beers/ -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:46:59 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-02 09:55, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 14:39, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 08:45, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/31/2017 5:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/31/2017 4:24 PM, wrote: What,abt the nww bike performance ? I find that new bike performance is limited by my old legs. YMMV ... and lungs. And ticker. Plus, the fire in my belly is largely gone. The fire sometimes comes back, though. We (my wife and I, riding tandem) were on a pretty leisurely club ride a couple weeks ago. A new young guy had showed up, and we were riding along chatting with him. He said he rides to stay in shape for his other sports, etc. As we talked, one of our club members who's notorious for such behavior decided to hit high gear and crank away out front for a while, then wait for the rest of the crew to catch up. When he did that, the newbie suddenly ended our conversation, saying something like "Excuse me now..." and took off. I though "Excuse me???" and told my wife "Let's go." So we reeled him in and were a comfortable ten feet behind when he caught the rabbit. For icing on the cake, our rabbit guy (as he always does) left the leisurely riders for the last five miles or so to crank in at 20 - 25 mph . My wife and I were close behind, and the newbie was a distant third. It was quite satisfying. But with a tandem, terrain is everything. If it weren't fairly flat, we'd happily ride back with the leisurely crowd. (P.S. Don't interpret this tale as a claim that I could stick with Jay, Tom or Duane, let alone James.) I'm old and slow. I wouldn't ride with you because you'd be in the middle of the road. I'd keep saying, "hey Frank, get over here. You're going to get whacked." You would scold me for being a gutter bunny, although I don't ride on the fog line and rarely ride anywhere with a gutter. We'd ride up on Joerg who would have a pannier full of water, a couple CPUs and a growler. He'd be complaining about psychopaths in cars and the fact that his Gazelle didn't come with factory rack-mounts and room for 35mm steel belted tires or a o-ring chain. He'd have to stop every fifteen minutes to pee. I don't think this NG would want to ride together. Only one pee on a 4-5h ride. My PSA test came back 0.4ng/ml so no "urge to go" from that department. However, I might bow out of the r.b.t. peloton the millisecond I spot a brewpub. You son would probably already be in the next county by then and leave us old farts behind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ My feeling on the matter is: Do NOT drink a 12-pack of beer the nite before riding the 5 Miles of Hell trail in Utah. No 12-packs from the store here, it's only our own brew. The good stuff. Depends where you buy your beer. My local store has an awesome selection: http://www.rainydayportland.com/2012...multnomah.html Here is our Marco's Cafe, in the middle of this page: http://www.gonewiththewynns.com/gold-country-ca Great place. Food is mediocre at best but good brews and good live music. With dancing. Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. Marcos is kind of a dump (but about the only place you could buy espresso drinks 30-40 years ago in PDX). I was posting the picture of the dumpy market down the street with the massive beer collection. They have a zillion bottles and some really arcane stuff. Even the store that is about a third of a mile from my house has a good beer selection. There is a growler fill place across the street from that. You have to like to home brew as a hobby because it is super-easy to just walk down the street and buy a good beer. I have too many other chores to spend time home brewing, but maybe I'll try it when I retire. Well, here in the People's Republic of California we have myriad nonsensical rules such as no growler sales at any place that doesn't brew right then and there. Then myriad taxes and "fees" (a.k.a. taxes) which makes a growler fill cost $15-$20 instead of you $10 and the whole picture turns pretty bleak. A growler with Belgian Tripel costs north of $20 and I can make five gallons (which equals 10 growlers) for under $60. Money or distance isn't the reason for me. For example, yesterday I rode up to Placerville on singletrack and had a beer at a brewery, could have brought back a growler. However, a growler with two people mweans you'll be drinking the same beer all night. Also, I like to experimnent a bit with the recipes so we have some beers now that you cannot buy anywhere. Brewing your own means you'll have five gallons of the same beer, good or bad. Don't forget to factor-in the cost of bottles, your time and other capital costs. To show you how mundane the beer craze is, here's the growler fill selection at my local supermarket (as opposed to market). It's walking distance, too, but a longer walk. http://growlers.fredmeyermedia.com/st/burlingame Fred Meyer is roughly the equivalent of a big Safeway or Lucky store. It's owned by Kroeger (Smith's in Utah). BTW, Hop Venom is very good if you're into double-IPAs. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23066/72750/ -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2017-08-03 10:11, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:46:59 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-02 09:55, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: [...] Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. Marcos is kind of a dump (but about the only place you could buy espresso drinks 30-40 years ago in PDX). I was posting the picture of the dumpy market down the street with the massive beer collection. They have a zillion bottles and some really arcane stuff. Even the store that is about a third of a mile from my house has a good beer selection. There is a growler fill place across the street from that. You have to like to home brew as a hobby because it is super-easy to just walk down the street and buy a good beer. I have too many other chores to spend time home brewing, but maybe I'll try it when I retire. Well, here in the People's Republic of California we have myriad nonsensical rules such as no growler sales at any place that doesn't brew right then and there. Then myriad taxes and "fees" (a.k.a. taxes) which makes a growler fill cost $15-$20 instead of you $10 and the whole picture turns pretty bleak. A growler with Belgian Tripel costs north of $20 and I can make five gallons (which equals 10 growlers) for under $60. Money or distance isn't the reason for me. For example, yesterday I rode up to Placerville on singletrack and had a beer at a brewery, could have brought back a growler. However, a growler with two people mweans you'll be drinking the same beer all night. Also, I like to experimnent a bit with the recipes so we have some beers now that you cannot buy anywhere. Brewing your own means you'll have five gallons of the same beer, good or bad. That's actually a good thing. You now have 52-55 12oz bottles of the good stuff that tastes like fresh from tap even after sitting there for a month or more. So far I didn't have a batch gone bad. We usually have 6-8 kinds of beer available at all times. Once you get started with brewing a mix develops that suits the family's taste. Homebrew usually has a longer shelf-life that store-bought. We try new beers all the time. Some become favorites, some don't but are ok. Then there is "his and hers", she likes American Wheat brewed with some clover honey while my favorite is Belgian Tripel. ... Don't forget to factor-in the cost of bottles, your time and other capital costs. Our bottles are all saved commercial ones. Can't factor in time, at least not in terms of what I could otherwise make as an engineer. It is a hobby. A good brew requires 4-6h total but that contains other activities. In winter I brew in the man cave downstairs and while watching the kettle out of the corner of an eye I either learn some Spanish from TV or use the pool table. In summer I brew outside and do yard maintenance in parallel. On hot days I wear my swim trunks and hop into the swimming pool once in a while. To show you how mundane the beer craze is, here's the growler fill selection at my local supermarket (as opposed to market). It's walking distance, too, but a longer walk. http://growlers.fredmeyermedia.com/st/burlingame Fred Meyer is roughly the equivalent of a big Safeway or Lucky store. It's owned by Kroeger (Smith's in Utah). Ooooh, Honey Koelsch! I've got to try brewing one of those. We always have homemade Koelsch available, it is one of the staples here. It's good that they offer 32oz fills, that's only two pints and you can pick another for later. Anyhow, in California the goons would soon swoop in and shut the whole place down. BTW, Hop Venom is very good if you're into double-IPAs. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23066/72750/ I love that stuff and 80 IBU would be right up my alley. My wife won't drink it though. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 03/08/2017 1:46 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-03 10:11, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:46:59 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-02 09:55, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: [...] Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. Marcos is kind of a dump (but about the only place you could buy espresso drinks 30-40 years ago in PDX). I was posting the picture of the dumpy market down the street with the massive beer collection. They have a zillion bottles and some really arcane stuff. Even the store that is about a third of a mile from my house has a good beer selection. There is a growler fill place across the street from that. You have to like to home brew as a hobby because it is super-easy to just walk down the street and buy a good beer. I have too many other chores to spend time home brewing, but maybe I'll try it when I retire. Well, here in the People's Republic of California we have myriad nonsensical rules such as no growler sales at any place that doesn't brew right then and there. Then myriad taxes and "fees" (a.k.a. taxes) which makes a growler fill cost $15-$20 instead of you $10 and the whole picture turns pretty bleak. A growler with Belgian Tripel costs north of $20 and I can make five gallons (which equals 10 growlers) for under $60. Money or distance isn't the reason for me. For example, yesterday I rode up to Placerville on singletrack and had a beer at a brewery, could have brought back a growler. However, a growler with two people mweans you'll be drinking the same beer all night. Also, I like to experimnent a bit with the recipes so we have some beers now that you cannot buy anywhere. Brewing your own means you'll have five gallons of the same beer, good or bad. That's actually a good thing. You now have 52-55 12oz bottles of the good stuff that tastes like fresh from tap even after sitting there for a month or more. So far I didn't have a batch gone bad. We usually have 6-8 kinds of beer available at all times. Once you get started with brewing a mix develops that suits the family's taste. Homebrew usually has a longer shelf-life that store-bought. We try new beers all the time. Some become favorites, some don't but are ok. Then there is "his and hers", she likes American Wheat brewed with some clover honey while my favorite is Belgian Tripel. ... Don't forget to factor-in the cost of bottles, your time and other capital costs. Our bottles are all saved commercial ones. Can't factor in time, at least not in terms of what I could otherwise make as an engineer. It is a hobby. A good brew requires 4-6h total but that contains other activities. In winter I brew in the man cave downstairs and while watching the kettle out of the corner of an eye I either learn some Spanish from TV or use the pool table. In summer I brew outside and do yard maintenance in parallel. On hot days I wear my swim trunks and hop into the swimming pool once in a while. To show you how mundane the beer craze is, here's the growler fill selection at my local supermarket (as opposed to market). It's walking distance, too, but a longer walk. http://growlers.fredmeyermedia.com/st/burlingame Fred Meyer is roughly the equivalent of a big Safeway or Lucky store. It's owned by Kroeger (Smith's in Utah). Ooooh, Honey Koelsch! I've got to try brewing one of those. We always have homemade Koelsch available, it is one of the staples here. It's good that they offer 32oz fills, that's only two pints and you can pick another for later. Anyhow, in California the goons would soon swoop in and shut the whole place down. BTW, Hop Venom is very good if you're into double-IPAs. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23066/72750/ I love that stuff and 80 IBU would be right up my alley. My wife won't drink it though. Buying beer your wife won't drink sounds like a plan. |
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On 2017-08-03 11:51, Duane wrote:
On 03/08/2017 1:46 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-03 10:11, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:46:59 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-02 09:55, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 5:13:47 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-08-01 16:46, jbeattie wrote: [...] Beer is passe. There's a brewpub or brewery on every Portland street corner. http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries You can get good Oregon brewed bottled IPAs at Costco. That is a major line-up. We don't have quite that selection but it's adequate. However, since I started brewing my own it only matters during rides. On some MTB rides far off civilization I take a home brew along. Surpringly it stays very cool in a stainless double-wall thermos and the constant shaking doesn't seem to harm it much. Now it's about cannabis -- and maybe hard cider . . . or mead. Hell, I don't know. No, no . . . its artisanal booze: http://www.distilleryrowpdx.com/ Try their Hopka: http://www.indiospirits.com/ Good stuff, just don't ride after too many of those. There are also in Portland. Where else? Hops liqueur? Blecchhhh. I'm not an atisanal liquor fan. Marcos is kind of a dump (but about the only place you could buy espresso drinks 30-40 years ago in PDX). I was posting the picture of the dumpy market down the street with the massive beer collection. They have a zillion bottles and some really arcane stuff. Even the store that is about a third of a mile from my house has a good beer selection. There is a growler fill place across the street from that. You have to like to home brew as a hobby because it is super-easy to just walk down the street and buy a good beer. I have too many other chores to spend time home brewing, but maybe I'll try it when I retire. Well, here in the People's Republic of California we have myriad nonsensical rules such as no growler sales at any place that doesn't brew right then and there. Then myriad taxes and "fees" (a.k.a. taxes) which makes a growler fill cost $15-$20 instead of you $10 and the whole picture turns pretty bleak. A growler with Belgian Tripel costs north of $20 and I can make five gallons (which equals 10 growlers) for under $60. Money or distance isn't the reason for me. For example, yesterday I rode up to Placerville on singletrack and had a beer at a brewery, could have brought back a growler. However, a growler with two people mweans you'll be drinking the same beer all night. Also, I like to experimnent a bit with the recipes so we have some beers now that you cannot buy anywhere. Brewing your own means you'll have five gallons of the same beer, good or bad. That's actually a good thing. You now have 52-55 12oz bottles of the good stuff that tastes like fresh from tap even after sitting there for a month or more. So far I didn't have a batch gone bad. We usually have 6-8 kinds of beer available at all times. Once you get started with brewing a mix develops that suits the family's taste. Homebrew usually has a longer shelf-life that store-bought. We try new beers all the time. Some become favorites, some don't but are ok. Then there is "his and hers", she likes American Wheat brewed with some clover honey while my favorite is Belgian Tripel. ... Don't forget to factor-in the cost of bottles, your time and other capital costs. Our bottles are all saved commercial ones. Can't factor in time, at least not in terms of what I could otherwise make as an engineer. It is a hobby. A good brew requires 4-6h total but that contains other activities. In winter I brew in the man cave downstairs and while watching the kettle out of the corner of an eye I either learn some Spanish from TV or use the pool table. In summer I brew outside and do yard maintenance in parallel. On hot days I wear my swim trunks and hop into the swimming pool once in a while. To show you how mundane the beer craze is, here's the growler fill selection at my local supermarket (as opposed to market). It's walking distance, too, but a longer walk. http://growlers.fredmeyermedia.com/st/burlingame Fred Meyer is roughly the equivalent of a big Safeway or Lucky store. It's owned by Kroeger (Smith's in Utah). Ooooh, Honey Koelsch! I've got to try brewing one of those. We always have homemade Koelsch available, it is one of the staples here. It's good that they offer 32oz fills, that's only two pints and you can pick another for later. Anyhow, in California the goons would soon swoop in and shut the whole place down. BTW, Hop Venom is very good if you're into double-IPAs. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23066/72750/ I love that stuff and 80 IBU would be right up my alley. My wife won't drink it though. Buying beer your wife won't drink sounds like a plan. Doesn't work. Then she starts sipping at _my_ Belgian Tripel :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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