30 on the flats!

Rich wrote:
bbaka wrote:

Jeff Starr wrote:

Obviously another April 1st post by little bill. I don't even think he
has a speedometer, so all the posts about speed, distance, and cadence
are all estimates [read exaggerations].

Jeff,
You are a ****ing moron.


Do you have speedometer, little bill, or is Jeff in fact correct in
saying all your posts about speed, distance, and cadence are all
estimates? And if he is in fact correct, then why would you think he's
a moron?

And aren't you old enough to communicate without swearing?

Rich

Rich,
I did draft my school bus, known to drive at 35-38 MPH when I actually
rode it and he comes back telling me I am full of ****. Most of what I
say on here is fact except for a few obvious trolls like the tricycle
thing, which I verified could not have been past 25 MPH under any
circumstances. So for one troll, I am now accused of lying about
everything. I am old enough and educated enough to use the college
English words on here, but some people have a fined tuned talent for
getting me ****ed off. There is much else, some of which one of my
friends mentioned to me that I would not even mention on here since the
people who have led sheltered lives could not believe I could/would have
done some things.
Speed: measured on the school bus while sitting behind the driver.
Distance: calculated from a map and sometimes by taking a car the same
route.
Cadence: Measured in 15 second intervals against my wrist watch.

I do my own thing and that does not include being a roadie nor feeling I
have to have a $5,000 carbon fiber bike to flaunt and probably break
with my riding and the crap roads I ride. Speeds on motor vehicles could
only have been verified if I had gotten caught, but I know, as does my
wife and certain friends.

Just because I don't do every thing the group sanctions does not put me
into the lower level of bicycle society. I am not interested in being
one of the elite 25 MPH crowd and happy to putter along at 13-17 MPH.

If any one person on this group wanted to prove me wrong or right it
would be Bob Hunt (Hunrobe) because he is in law enforcement and could
probably verify the number of times I was brought home by the police for
doing outlandish things as a kid.

Sorry,
I refuse to grow up.
Bill Baka

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:35:22 -0800, bbaka wrote:


Do you have speedometer, little bill, or is Jeff in fact correct in
saying all your posts about speed, distance, and cadence are all
estimates? And if he is in fact correct, then why would you think he's
a moron?



Rich,

Speed: measured on the school bus while sitting behind the driver.
Distance: calculated from a map and sometimes by taking a car the same
route.
Cadence: Measured in 15 second intervals against my wrist watch.



Sorry,
I refuse to grow up.
Bill Baka

You seem to think that I am focusing on your silly bus drafting story,
well I am not.
I am talking in general, about all your apparently unmeasured,
exaggerated exploits.
Why not just answer Rich's question? Although I think you already did,
if you use a map to figure distances.
So, once more, do you have a speedometer on your bike[s]?


Life is Good!
Jeff

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:51:56 GMT, Jeff Starr wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:35:22 -0800, bbaka wrote:


Do you have speedometer, little bill, or is Jeff in fact correct in
saying all your posts about speed, distance, and cadence are all
estimates? And if he is in fact correct, then why would you think he's
a moron?



Rich,

Speed: measured on the school bus while sitting behind the driver.
Distance: calculated from a map and sometimes by taking a car the same
route.
Cadence: Measured in 15 second intervals against my wrist watch.



Sorry,
I refuse to grow up.
Bill Baka

You seem to think that I am focusing on your silly bus drafting story,
well I am not.
I am talking in general, about all your apparently unmeasured,
exaggerated exploits.
Why not just answer Rich's question? Although I think you already did,
if you use a map to figure distances.
So, once more, do you have a speedometer on your bike[s]?


Life is Good!
Jeff

Would a rubberband and a popsickle stick, marked off with crayon count?

jj

Jeff Starr wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:35:22 -0800, bbaka wrote:



Do you have speedometer, little bill, or is Jeff in fact correct in
saying all your posts about speed, distance, and cadence are all
estimates? And if he is in fact correct, then why would you think he's
a moron?

Drafting a school bus at a known 35 MPH was no estimate so why pick on
that? I was 15, in absurdly good shape, did century rides in the
mountains in the weekends, so drafting at 35 was a non problem. Perhaps
moron was giving Jeff too much credit. Some of us have done things that
others would never even think of trying and I will not try to change the
safety at all costs line of thinking. As I mentioned, distance has been
verified by car and Mapquest/Yahoo and cadence is a total no brainer to
measure for 15 seconds and then multiply by 4. I run 80-85 RPM when I
want to do a long distance cruise and as low as 40 when I am just
puttering with my grandkids.



Rich,


Speed: measured on the school bus while sitting behind the driver.
Distance: calculated from a map and sometimes by taking a car the same
route.
Cadence: Measured in 15 second intervals against my wrist watch.



Sorry,
I refuse to grow up.
Bill Baka


You seem to think that I am focusing on your silly bus drafting story,
well I am not.
I am talking in general, about all your apparently unmeasured,
exaggerated exploits.
I did troll with the tricycle speed since that was the impression of a
3-5 year old kid, me. My Mustang did do an honest 160+ and my wife even
did that speed with it. The motorcycle speed of 200 MPH 'MAY' have been
a high estimate but it was on the peg at 170 and accelerated about 1,000
RPM more on the tach. Since I didn't get radar'ed I don't know, but it
was wickedly scary fast. These days I might, maybe take a bike up to 140
but that has been pretty much outgrown and there are way too many police
looking for that juicy big ticket.
Why not just answer Rich's question? Although I think you already did,
if you use a map to figure distances.
So, once more, do you have a speedometer on your bike[s]?
No speedometer, yet, but I can tell within a few if I am doing 13-15 MPH
by timing myself between mile markers, a 4 minute mile being 15 flat. My
usual cadence is about 80 in a 42/14 gear on a 26"x1.75 or 2.25 tire
depending on which bike I use. If you want to do the math as an exercise
I got 88.5" per revolution on the 2.25 tires. That is just cruise and I
don't really care about the actual speed. Top gear on the Mongoose is
42/11 but I chased the gravel trucks with the Huffy and the top is
48/14. My current project is to see if I can mount water bottles with
auto heater hose clamps on the front forks or anywhere else they might
fit. Total Fred but I can easily drink that much on one of my 100 degree
mountain centuries. The back pack gets the food and tools. Per the song
by Frank Sinatra "I do it my way".
Bill Baka


Life is Good!
Jeff

bbaka wrote:

Most of what I
say on here is fact except for a few obvious trolls like the tricycle
thing,

That's simply not true, Bill. Just in the past month you've claimed to
ridden thousands of miles on your huffy, sometimes going 100 miles in a
day, and claimed to own a fork straightening tool. And the list goes on
and on. You lie so often that nothing you say is credible.

Which is all OK, except when you start passing your lies off as advice
to newbies. Then it gets annoying, because if they just showed up they
might actaully believe you.

Rich

jj wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:51:56 GMT, Jeff Starr wrote:

You seem to think that I am focusing on your silly bus drafting story,
well I am not.
I am talking in general, about all your apparently unmeasured,
exaggerated exploits.
Why not just answer Rich's question? Although I think you already did,
if you use a map to figure distances.
So, once more, do you have a speedometer on your bike[s]?


Life is Good!
Jeff


Would a rubberband and a popsickle stick, marked off with crayon count?

jj

Have you ever tried to measure distance between obscure points on a
mapquest or Yahoo map? It ain't easy. That is why I will sometimes take
a car to trace my route to the ends of the pavement. The car's odometer
is off a few percent but I have already factored that in by driving
between freeway mileage posts and matching the real 10 miles against the
car's odometer and speedometer. Something else no one would believe I do
since it takes a certain level of smarts.
Bill Baka

bbaka wrote:

Have you ever tried to measure distance between obscure points on a
mapquest or Yahoo map? It ain't easy.

What?? Are you totally stupid? You just put in your to and from
address and IT TELLS YOU THE DISTANCE. Can you even use a computer Bill?

bbaka wrote:

I can easily drink that much on one of my 100 degree
mountain centuries.

Another obvious example of one of your lies.

Buy a cyclocomputer. Then get back to us with some actual facts. I
think you'll discover that you're not riding anywhere near as far or
fast as you're claiming.

Rich

Rich wrote:
bbaka wrote:

Most of what I say on here is fact except for a few obvious trolls
like the tricycle thing,


That's simply not true, Bill. Just in the past month you've claimed to
ridden thousands of miles on your huffy, sometimes going 100 miles in a
day,

I have gone over 100 miles on my Huffy a few times when I stayed out 9
hours messing around and riding/exploring, and yes the Huffy has well
over 5,000 miles on it. If stuff breaks I just replace it with something
better.

and claimed to own a fork straightening tool.

No, I said I have a redneck fork straightening crowbar(s), but tools for
almost anything else. I rebuild/modify my own cars not just as a hobby
but to verify that the work is done properly, hence a lot of tools from
a big 5HP air compressor on down.

And the list goes on
and on. You lie so often that nothing you say is credible.

If you take me out of context or you just can't accept it then it comes
across as a lie.

Which is all OK, except when you start passing your lies off as advice
to newbies.

Not all newbies are going to want to go out and spend a ton of cash just
to get something that appeases you guys.

Then it gets annoying, because if they just showed up they
might actaully believe you.

Mario is the only new guy that I said much of anything to and that was
just that if he was satisfied with the bike then to go and use it. A
$200 entry bike may be at the upper end of his budget and I doubt that
he is going to blow $5,000 on a mid-high end Trek just because some of
you think that is the way to go. If my junker Huffy and Mongoose get me
where I want I am happy with them, and if you are not impressed by how
much I am willing to spend on a bike, then too bad. Even my computers
are custom built be me and rarely have a cover on them since I change
out things like hard drives to change operating systems. 7 systems, 7
boot drives. Windows 95 taught me that the hard way by killing other
drives in the system. I will never buy a name brand Dell, HP, Compaq, or
any other since I want total control and my home business is based on
helping people upgrade or even build a computer just for their needs.
My other random but large income is electronics since I am a specialist
in certain areas where most engineers can't comprehend the job.
Not a country hick, sometimes a bull****ter, but there is more truth in
my stories than you can know without having been there.

I can accept that some of you have led sheltered lives and never took
youthful risks, but I did all I could, when I had the chance.
Bill Baka

Rich

Rich wrote:
bbaka wrote:

Have you ever tried to measure distance between obscure points on a
mapquest or Yahoo map? It ain't easy.


What?? Are you totally stupid? You just put in your to and from
address and IT TELLS YOU THE DISTANCE. Can you even use a computer Bill?

DUH, Ralph.
The places I ride don't even have addresses and they would not take the
same roads and even dirt trails I use to get places. You must be riding
in the city way too much as the smog seems to be affecting you. I do NOT
ride in city areas.
Bill Baka