State your opinion on COVID-19

On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:

But I have to underscore this - these figures are based upon CDC statistics and the CDC has embarrassed itself beyond belief. They should be closed down completely when they actually have the unmitigated gall to say out loud that they are marking a person positive for covid-19 that dies in a car accident a covid-19 death.

Do you have a decent citation documenting that? IOW, a link that's not
from a conspiracy website?


--
- Frank Krygowski

On 5/13/2020 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 7:59:26 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/13/2020 10:01 AM, wrote:

I get a flu shot every year but they only work about half the time even when they hit the target.

The fact that they are not required to report deaths tightly linked to influenza is a pretty good indication of how effective the CDC has ever been.

And yet today the figures for covid-19 deaths are so overblown that they are meaningless. Most of the people that have died have had such serious preexisting conditions that they were not expected to live out the year.

And yet, my wife belongs to a group of church ladies that get together to repeat bible verses to each other. I take a rather different view of what Jesus came to Earth for and it certainly isn't devoting your life listening to someone tell me that Saul was a king of the Jews.

In any case, one of the church ladies has a grandmother in a nursing home. She is 101 years old, tests positive for covid-19 and shows no symptoms at all. Doesn't this suggest that the CDC needs to get someone in there that can figure out what is going on?

The CDC certainly does need to do things differently! It's time to get
rid of all those research professionals, those folks with actual medical
degrees and decades of experience in the field, who use expensive
equipment, communicating and consulting with experts around the world,
analyzing data from dozens of countries. Out with them all!

Why, oh why, aren't they listening to an unemployed high school dropout
who gets his information from Fox News??

CDC: HIRE TOM! GIVE HIM SOMETHING TO DO!

--
- Frank Krygowski

The great Frank who believes with all of his might that a college degree automatically issues competency. It must be really great to be able to lend authenticity to someone's incompetency simply because he has a degree.

But my experience is different. I had many highly educated people working for me that couldn't tie their own shoe laces. On one project alone, I had six degreed engineers working for me and I still had to do half of the hardware design and write the entire real time operating system and have of the application code.

When I had my head injury no doctors could treat it. Since the injury caused epilepsy and that is reasonably common, tell us Frank, why couldn't doctors recognize the illness and use the NORMAL treatment that is in every single medical manual? Why is it that it took a Stanford University professor two minutes of simple questions to realize what was happening and begin a regimen of medication that brought me back from the brink of death?

Why is it that the entire staff of THREE hospital emergency rooms could not determine that my brother had pneumonia, the most common cause of death among senior citizens and a podiatrist recognized it on the x-rays (the most gross form of instrumentation they used) with a single glance? Not even a full look, a single glance. And the hospital he sent up so said my brother was literally hours from death?

Explain why Fauci initially said that covid-19 could not be transmitted human to human - WHILE THERE WERE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN HOSPITALS IN ITALY? Why is it that he said that masks couldn't do a thing? Then he said that yes, covid-19 was contagious but it wasn't anything to worry about? Then it would kill 2.2 Million Americans? Then it would kill 1.2 Million? Then it would kill 65,000? And now that the entire nation should remain in shut down until next year. That students schooling should be suspended or carried out through distant electronic media which we all know is so effective.

Then why did the CDC begin pressuring hospitals all over the country to report ANYTHING as a covid-19 death regardless of the cause of death?

Yes indeed, if there is one thing we can be sure of it is that you college graduates have full intentions of protecting each other no matter what horrors you commit.

Hopefully the next time you get ill you can be treated by a doctor with a college degree and internship and all of the practical knowledge of your great Dr. Fauci who hasn't even set foot inside of a hospital in 40 years. Whose last LOOK at a patient was his last day as an intern.

Frank, you are the absolute scum of the Earth and you will die a horrible, painful and frightening death. That is too bad because you could have been a man but refused.

Tom, you asked so many questions above! But the answer to them is all
the same:

Despite their years of experience, extensive educations, vast reference
resources, etc....

Despite all that, NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE ANYWHERE NEAR AS SMART AS YOU!

So will you _please_ stop wasting your time here? Call your hero
president, or at _least_ some right-wing congressman who shares your
views, and have them put you in charge!

Dammit, your country needs you! (According to you.)


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tue, 12 May 2020 16:49:26 -0500,
AMuzi wrote:
On 5/12/2020 3:09 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
wrote:
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/12/2020 12:22 AM, news18 wrote:

snip

This is not a US newsgroup. No where does US appears in the
newsgroup title.

It is so. It's in English, and everyone knows that the U.S.
invented English. Everyone knows that bicycles were invented
in the U.S., even though they were not.

It would seem that if you wanted to comment on anything about
this group you would know that it was founded by Sheldon
Brown at Harris Cyclery in Massachusetts. But then comments
around here generally don't come from people that know
anything.


Some online digging pulled up the post in news.groups to
reorganize the hierarchy and create rec.bicycles.tech. The
post was dated May 19, 1992 and was written by Les Earnest.
Bruce Hildenbrand was also mentioned as being part of this
movement. No mention of Sheldon Brown.

And here is the first post to the new group. Again, no
mention of Sheldon.

================ first post to r.b.tech =================

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: (Les Earnest)
Subject: Welcome to rec.bicycles.tech
Message-ID:
Sender:
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:23:49 GMT
Lines: 11


I'm pleased to see that this group is alive and well. In case
you don't remember, here is the charter.

rec.bicycles.tech: Techniques of engineering, construction,
maintenance and repair of bicycles and ancillary equipment.
Not for products or services offered or wanted -- see
rec.bicycles.marketplace.

--
Les Earnest Phone: 415 941-3984
Internet: USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les Los Altos Hills, CA
94022


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Now there's a famous guy Bruce Hildebrand, a.k.a. Rok Climber.
Thanks.

+1

I haven't thought of him since the heydey of rbr.

And fun to see Les's name pop up. I ran into him when he was
soliciting folks to sign on to a lawsuit against the USCF, and
again when we both helped EFF file Federal Register comments
against the DMCA.

--
Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Wed, 13 May 2020 08:37:18 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/13/2020 12:16 AM, news18 wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2020 08:25:44 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

I understand your point but effectiveness of influenza vaccine is
between lackluster and miserable especially for my age group:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2018-2019.html

12%~16% is better than nothing but hardly a binary "die because they
couldn't afford a flu jab."

Yes, the flu jab is a best guess selection of the strains that "the
medical powers" think will be the dominnant strains for this years flu
season and sometime they have good results and some times (2019 here)
they guess incorrectly and things are bad.

I can get a free flu shot, but I've always refused for two reasons;
1. at worst, my suffering from the flu is 24 hours and I know plenty of
people who suffer longer from the effects of the injection,
2. as I've repeatedly tod the GP, it isn't any use as it is for last
years northern hemisphere flu and it takes six months for the local flu
experts to identify the strains active here and develop a new flu jab.





One important way to avoid panic in the population is to not
publish the data:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season...-2017-2018.htm

"While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu
deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. "

Which seems to be as effective as anything.

You missed the part that said:

"In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups, CDC
tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the
National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting
System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates
processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or
contributing cause of death. "

(funny that as it was right next to the part that you quoted)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 13 May 2020 08:45:33 -0700, ernestomarord wrote:



Can we talk about bicycles in rec.bicycles.tech?

Sure, ask your question.
Otherwise, it is 'toy the troll' to fill in time.
So go ahead and post.

On 5/13/2020 2:31 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

snip

I haven't thought of him since the heydey of rbr.

And fun to see Les's name pop up. I ran into him when he was
soliciting folks to sign on to a lawsuit against the USCF, and
again when we both helped EFF file Federal Register comments
against the DMCA.

I think I remember him from Western Wheelers.

On 5/13/2020 8:45 AM, wrote:

Can we talk about bicycles in rec.bicycles.tech?

Choose from the following topics:

a) Helmet conspiracy
b) Dynamo lights versus battery powered lights
c) Chain cleaning and lubrication

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 7:56:48 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/13/2020 8:45 AM, wrote:

Can we talk about bicycles in rec.bicycles.tech?

Choose from the following topics:

a) Helmet conspiracy
b) Dynamo lights versus battery powered lights
c) Chain cleaning and lubrication

Don't get me going on battery powered helmet lights. Gads, those are blinding on a MUP/cycletrack -- right at eye level. I'd like to whack those people with a waxy chain. And its always the guys with like six lights, and they're always in places where you could get by with no light at all.

-- Jay Beattie.

Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 13.05.2020 um 16:01 schrieb :

And yet today the figures for covid-19 deaths are so overblown that
they are meaningless. Most of the people that have died have had such
serious preexisting conditions that they were not expected to live
out the year.

I have repeatedly linked the paper that determined the average "lifetime
lost" on Italian COVID fatalities was 10 years, not "significantly less
than one year".

No, Ralf, according two two different newsservers, you did not. Maybe
somewhere else, maybe in your head, but apparently not on rbt. There is a
85 percent chance you get your news from the commie-usurped Telepolis
magazine, though, so might be refering to Roetzer's article linking to these:

https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-75/v1
https://avalonecon.com/wp-content/up...9-QALYs-v3.pdf

Next time, Rolf, bring your own tea leaves, will you?

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 5:23:02 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 7:56:48 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/13/2020 8:45 AM, wrote:

Can we talk about bicycles in rec.bicycles.tech?

Choose from the following topics:

a) Helmet conspiracy
b) Dynamo lights versus battery powered lights
c) Chain cleaning and lubrication

Don't get me going on battery powered helmet lights. Gads, those are blinding on a MUP/cycletrack -- right at eye level. I'd like to whack those people with a waxy chain. And its always the guys with like six lights, and they're always in places where you could get by with no light at all.

-- Jay Beattie.

+1 what a f*cking idiots. Once one of those idiots stopped me and asked for directions. I told him he could get lost. I was lost myself for half a minute.

Lou