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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
On Sep 16, 7:07 pm, wrote:
[git with dog harrassing bear, surprised at bear attacking him] I believe this bear was surprised by my dog and protecting his territory. Even the git knows he's a git. Folks like me have intruded on the bears over the years but I was within two miles of my home and I don't plan on staying inside. If you've no respect for your horrible self, you could at least have some respect for the bear. If your shredded carcass is found beside the trail then it's a fairly strong possibility the bear will wind up destroyed. You won't be any loss. We can always find another idiot to replace you. And your dog sure won't be missed by anybody. But the bears are getting rare. Why don't you get yoursefl an x-box and move to the city? You don't understand wilderness. At the very least, get a leash for your mutt and keep it on the leash at all times in bear country. Or leave the flea circus at home and let others enjoy the woods. Socks |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
On Sep 17, 7:02 pm, "Ryan Robbins" wrote:
"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message news:4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06... AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. Really? And I take it that you're basing this assumption on a couple of news reports which, by definition, report things that are unusual. Attacks by black bears are rare. Fatal attacks are even rarer still. Here in Maine, we have the largest black bear population east of the Mississippi. I don't recall ever hearing of even so much as an attack by a black bear here. I have had four black bear encounters since June, one only 25 feet from a mother bear and her cub. And every time the bear didn't make any attempt to attack. On three occasions, the bears took off. On one occasion, the bear just kept eating nuts, not minding the discharge of my flash. Among the dozens and dozens of "bear awareness" websites, here is an interesting one. I don't necessarily agree with her obsrevational methods - howevre, when it comes to the observational and factual information, this discussion seems to get it really close to "on the nose." In short, it isn't necessary to freak over black bears, and hungry bears do not equal more attacks on humans. http://www.bearsmart.com/bearFacts/TruthAboutBears.html Bruce Jensen |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
"Ryan Robbins" wrote in message news:XkGHi.2194$yO2.866@trndny01... "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message news:4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06... AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. Really? And I take it that you're basing this assumption on a couple of news reports which, by definition, report things that are unusual. Attacks by black bears are rare. Fatal attacks are even rarer still. Here in Maine, we have the largest black bear population east of the Mississippi. I don't recall ever hearing of even so much as an attack by a black bear here. I have had four black bear encounters since June, one only 25 feet from a mother bear and her cub. And every time the bear didn't make any attempt to attack. On three occasions, the bears took off. On one occasion, the bear just kept eating nuts, not minding the discharge of my flash. You and I are in complete agreement, the nature of black bears is that they avoid human contact if they can. My point is that in the west we have had years of drought and the food supply is diminished, causing the bears to be more agressive than they would otherwise be. Mike is suggesting that the cause of the agression is the mountain bike, I am suggtesting that the bike rider simply ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time, and found a hungry bear that was also defending her cubs. The drought in the west is not an assumption, by the way. |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
On Sep 18, 8:36 am, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
"Ryan Robbins" wrote in message news:XkGHi.2194$yO2.866@trndny01... "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message news:4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06... AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. Really? And I take it that you're basing this assumption on a couple of news reports which, by definition, report things that are unusual. Attacks by black bears are rare. Fatal attacks are even rarer still. Here in Maine, we have the largest black bear population east of the Mississippi. I don't recall ever hearing of even so much as an attack by a black bear here. I have had four black bear encounters since June, one only 25 feet from a mother bear and her cub. And every time the bear didn't make any attempt to attack. On three occasions, the bears took off. On one occasion, the bear just kept eating nuts, not minding the discharge of my flash. You and I are in complete agreement, the nature of black bears is that they avoid human contact if they can. My point is that in the west we have had years of drought and the food supply is diminished, causing the bears to be more agressive than they would otherwise be. Mike is suggesting that the cause of the agression is the mountain bike, I am suggtesting that the bike rider simply ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time, and found a hungry bear that was also defending her cubs. I think you're on the right track, but I am doubtful that the cubs play into it (it isn't at all obvious that the attacking bear even had cubs, despite the reported presence of a momma bear with cubs in the area) - I think the dogs probably got the bear more riled up than anything, and the biker wound up in the midst of it, an easy target for the angry, panicky bruin. Either way, I think it pays to exercise caution in bear country. This guy had loose dogs and was zipping along on a bike where visibility apparently was not excellent. It doesn't sound really smart, or really careful, to me. His actions were at best a gamble, and on this spin, he lost the bet. Bruce Jensen |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:36:17 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote: "Ryan Robbins" wrote in message news:XkGHi.2194$yO2.866@trndny01... "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message news:4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06... AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. Really? And I take it that you're basing this assumption on a couple of news reports which, by definition, report things that are unusual. Attacks by black bears are rare. Fatal attacks are even rarer still. Here in Maine, we have the largest black bear population east of the Mississippi. I don't recall ever hearing of even so much as an attack by a black bear here. I have had four black bear encounters since June, one only 25 feet from a mother bear and her cub. And every time the bear didn't make any attempt to attack. On three occasions, the bears took off. On one occasion, the bear just kept eating nuts, not minding the discharge of my flash. You and I are in complete agreement, the nature of black bears is that they avoid human contact if they can. My point is that in the west we have had years of drought and the food supply is diminished, causing the bears to be more agressive than they would otherwise be. Mike is suggesting that the cause of the agression is the mountain bike, I am suggtesting that the bike rider simply ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time, Yes! The only right place for a mountain biker is on pavement. and found a hungry bear that was also defending her cubs. The drought in the west is not an assumption, by the way. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
On Sep 18, 8:13 am, Puppet_Sock wrote:
On Sep 17, 11:40 am, y_p_w wrote: [snip] The people killed by black bears are aberrations. I think you mean to say that the killing of people by black bears is an aberration, not that the people are... Perhaps a little of both. One would be the aberration where people are recklessly careless/clueless, and the other would be a bear that would engage in a predatory attack against a person. Oh. You were talking about Mickey. That too. ;-) |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
In article 4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06,
"Jeff Strickland" wrote: AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. It seems the bears are responding to a shortage in the food chain that has resulted from several years of drought in the western states. As it turns out, you have no idea of which you speak....... |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
In article RfSHi.4216$Bm1.2351@trnddc01,
"Jeff Strickland" wrote: "Ryan Robbins" wrote in message news:XkGHi.2194$yO2.866@trndny01... "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message news:4NBHi.2751$io2.196@trnddc06... AS IT TURNS OUT, black bears are attacking all sorts of people these days. Really? And I take it that you're basing this assumption on a couple of news reports which, by definition, report things that are unusual. Attacks by black bears are rare. Fatal attacks are even rarer still. Here in Maine, we have the largest black bear population east of the Mississippi. I don't recall ever hearing of even so much as an attack by a black bear here. I have had four black bear encounters since June, one only 25 feet from a mother bear and her cub. And every time the bear didn't make any attempt to attack. On three occasions, the bears took off. On one occasion, the bear just kept eating nuts, not minding the discharge of my flash. You and I are in complete agreement, the nature of black bears is that they avoid human contact if they can. My point is that in the west we have had years of drought and the food supply is diminished, causing the bears to be more agressive than they would otherwise be. Mike is suggesting that the cause of the agression is the mountain bike, I am suggtesting that the bike rider simply ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time, and found a hungry bear that was also defending her cubs. The drought in the west is not an assumption, by the way. Hey Dufus, this happened in Western Washington State, where there ISN'T a drought, and hasn't been in a number of years. There is plenty of Bear Chow available, this time of year. The Bike Riders DOGGIE, precipitated the whole incident, by suprising The bear, in question. There were NO cubs present during the attack. The only Statement about Cubs, WAS, that a sow with cubs was seen in the vacinity, earlier, and this "MAY" have been the same Bear. The actual attcking bear, was never identified, or it's sex identified, during, or after, the incident. At least get the FACTS straight, before you make your WildAssed Assumptions, and presenting them as some sort of opinion, or fact...... |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
In North America(from a bears point of view)there are only 2 types of
animal bears and bear food. |
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Black bear attacks mountain biker in Washington State park
wrote in message news:6IYHi.255$A55.129@pd7urf2no... In North America(from a bears point of view)there are only 2 types of animal bears and bear food. More like 3: bears, bear food, and other. Greg -- Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that: http://ticketmastersucks.org "Ya gotta stop riding the brakes, ya gotta stop robbing the cradle" - Chris D |
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