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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
I've finally discovered what makes me ride with a shoulder twisted far back while on slanted surfaces (very uncomfortable after the first mile, and frustrating because it was terrible form). There were many helpful ideas and suggestions on previous threads, and it appears that this issue has different causes for different people and riding styles. Below is what worked for me and I wanted to share in case anyone else is going through this. Apologies in advance if I'm repeating a suggestion already made in another thread. Basically, I cured the problem by eliminating any pressure on the pedals during up-stroke. (I'm used to pulling up on my MTB pedals, but the uni has no clips and I tend to pedal with the middle of my foot on the uni, making it difficult to do "pedal circles" like on the bike). But by consciously LIFTING my legs, and "staying light" on the pedals during up-stroke, the twisted shoulder problem is completely gone. Of course I still use up-stroke pressure for controlling speed on downhills, but my shoulder never twisted going down, just on flats and uphills. I think putting unnecessary pressure on pedals during up-stroke puts counter-forces on the uni dynamics, resulting in the shoulder twist. It appears that another benefit of this technique is the uni is so much better balanced that using a slight FORWARD push "over the top" of the pedal stroke allows me to do very small adjustments in steering that help be stay in the sweet spot on slanted roads and trails. I'm a beginner so I'm probably (I hope) discovering some basic well-known stuff here, but if anyone else is going through this really annoying problem, I hope this is helpful. -- munimutant ------------------------------------------------------------------------ munimutant's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16222 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
Many thanks for this suggestion. I'm pretty new to this; managed my first 1.5 mile non-stop ride a couple of days ago. I have a similar problem that I find I lead with my left shoulder when I'm getting a bit tired and lose concentration. I've tried to analyse why it happens and came to the conclusion that I'm not applying even pedal pressure each side and the body twist compensates. Still it's getting better! Gary -- Gadge "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gadge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17136 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
Gadge wrote: Many thanks for this suggestion. I'm pretty new to this; managed my first 1.5 mile non-stop ride a couple of days ago. I have a similar problem that I find I lead with my left shoulder when I'm getting a bit tired and lose concentration. I've tried to analyse why it happens and came to the conclusion that I'm not applying even pedal pressure each side and the body twist compensates. Still it's getting better! Gary Gary, thats interresting ... what do you do then - concentrate on the same pressure on both sides ? I feel the same leading of one shoulder when I am riding (donīt now what side but I have tryed to sit "anyway in an other way" (donīt now how to write it in englisch) but maybee it is the pressure - I will have a look on this. It is a little confusing at the moment because also the sattle fixation. Every now and then it is getting a little out of the middle. -- scharpenacker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ scharpenacker's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17421 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
I'd say untwist it. Edit: Nevermind, I thought you twisted it. -- Triball Pay for you gas or loose your ID ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Triball's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13759 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
Triball wrote: I'd say untwist it. Edit: Nevermind, I thought you twisted it. So maybe one more try - clearly , I have to untwist the sattle. But when I am getting tired - I feel like I have to correct more and more this one-shoulder-in-front-"problem" (it doesnīt hurt in my case) but I begin to twist myself more and more. So maybe it comes from that what Gary sad. Not the same pressure on both sides, but I donīt think so, because I am not getting tired in the legs. (Maybe more in concentration) But I will give it a try. Does all guys ride with the sattle "exact" in the middle without twist - or DO somepeople twist it because of comfort a little to the left or right ... Stupid question ??? Twisting question - for my new KH on order - do I have to open the clamp for untwisting, or the same way of the normal untwisting (wheel between the legs and twist with the sattle?) -- scharpenacker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ scharpenacker's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17421 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
I didn't recommend twisting the saddle. I was having a try at humor, but failed miserably for missunderstanding the problem -- Triball Pay for you gas or loose your ID ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Triball's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13759 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
When I start getting the shoulder leading feeling it often feels like the saddle is twisted, but it isn't. I've been trying to concentrate on lightening the pressure on the pedals and this seems to help. It can sometime happen if I'm trying to compensate for a sloping or cambered path. Not sure I have the answers but it's good to discuss these things and hear how others feel about them and maybe how they've solved the problem. The better I get the less it's an issue and keeping more weight in the saddle helps. Gary -- Gadge "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gadge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17136 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
scharpenacker wrote: Does all guys ride with the sattle "exact" in the middle without twist - or DO somepeople twist it because of comfort a little to the left or right ... Stupid question ???. That sounds like a good question! I actually wondered if twisting the saddle the other way would balance it out but I decided it might develop into a bad habit and I should try and solve the problem. -- Gadge "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gadge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17136 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
Gadge wrote: Many thanks for this suggestion. I'm pretty new to this; managed my first 1.5 mile non-stop ride a couple of days ago. Mr. Modesty. It was 1.5 laps of the rowing lake, which is a good 2 miles. Things that make the uni feel twisted: Inadequately inflated tyre. Bad tyre profile. Camber. Saddle not quite straight. Not sitting straight on the saddle. Too much tension in the legs. Too much tension in the shoulders. Concentrating too much. One testicle being much heavier than the other. -- Mikefule Either you understand the concept of a false dichotomy perfectly, or you don't understand it at all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikefule's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/879 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Cure for twisted shoulder on slanted surfaces
Mikefule wrote: Mr. Modesty. It was 1.5 laps of the rowing lake, which is a good 2 miles. Things that make the uni feel twisted: Inadequately inflated tyre. Bad tyre profile. Camber. Saddle not quite straight. Not sitting straight on the saddle. Too much tension in the legs. Too much tension in the shoulders. Concentrating too much. One testicle being much heavier than the other. It must have been modesty that prevented me using the last reason or maybe it's just about dressing to one side I'll plead guilty to most of the other failling though :-( -- Gadge "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gadge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/17136 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71977 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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