Front wheel to shoe clearance, or lack of...

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:21:14 -0400, "ZeeExSixAre"
wrote:

For those of you that can, how do you accomodate for trackstanding when
you're at a light?

I never understood why people do this.

JT

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:10:16 +1000, sugs wrote:

Yesterday, while loitering at a junction, I realised that it was
possible to touch the back of the front wheel with the toe of my shoe,
when the cranks were horizontal and the wheel turned off centre by
about 30 degrees. The overlap was almost 1/2 in.
Obviously this has implications when tight cornering, although
probably at the lower speeds where more deflection is likely, but it
nevertheless worries me, as I've never been aware of the potential of
losing control because of my wheel hitting my toe.

Is this a common situation which just has to be accomodated for by
careful riding?

It is a common problem which does _not_ have to be accommodated for by
careful riding. The only time you will hit the wheel is during a very
sharp turn at low speed. And if you do hit your toe, it will naturally
pull your toe up a bit. Not a problem. I've done it a few times, with no
difficulty.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | Let's not escape into mathematics. Let's stay with reality. --
_`\(,_ | Michael Crichton
(_)/ (_) |

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:10:16 +1000, sugs wrote:

Yesterday, while loitering at a junction, I realised that it was
possible to touch the back of the front wheel with the toe of my shoe,
when the cranks were horizontal and the wheel turned off centre by
about 30 degrees. The overlap was almost 1/2 in.
Obviously this has implications when tight cornering, although
probably at the lower speeds where more deflection is likely, but it
nevertheless worries me, as I've never been aware of the potential of
losing control because of my wheel hitting my toe.

Is this a common situation which just has to be accomodated for by
careful riding?

It is a common problem which does _not_ have to be accommodated for by
careful riding. The only time you will hit the wheel is during a very
sharp turn at low speed. And if you do hit your toe, it will naturally
pull your toe up a bit. Not a problem. I've done it a few times, with no
difficulty.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | Let's not escape into mathematics. Let's stay with reality. --
_`\(,_ | Michael Crichton
(_)/ (_) |

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:42:21 GMT, SoCalMike
wrote:
Is this a common situation

pretty much. frames are more compact now.

Rode an old Schwinn Traveler on Thursday with _terrible_ toe
overlap. It's definitely not compact geometry.
--
Rick Onanian

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:42:21 GMT, SoCalMike
wrote:
Is this a common situation

pretty much. frames are more compact now.

Rode an old Schwinn Traveler on Thursday with _terrible_ toe
overlap. It's definitely not compact geometry.
--
Rick Onanian

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:32:29 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
wrote:
For those of you that can, how do you accomodate for trackstanding when
you're at a light?

I never understood why people do this.

I think it's for obfuscatory purposes. You know, make sure that
nobody knows what your intentions are, so you can remain
unpredictable...always a good strategy, right?

I put a foot down, to make my intentions crystal clear. I also
signal my turns and lane changes.
--
Rick Onanian

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:32:29 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
wrote:
For those of you that can, how do you accomodate for trackstanding when
you're at a light?

I never understood why people do this.

I think it's for obfuscatory purposes. You know, make sure that
nobody knows what your intentions are, so you can remain
unpredictable...always a good strategy, right?

I put a foot down, to make my intentions crystal clear. I also
signal my turns and lane changes.
--
Rick Onanian