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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road too and if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if driving an SUV. Hey loony toon, should drunk pedestrians get their drivers license taken away too and get a dUI? They could seriously injure a baby sitting all alone on the sidewalk |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
DougC wrote: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road too and if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if driving an SUV. Generally, in the US--a police officer can cite anyone for operating any type of vehicle unsafely on public roadways, and that can and does include non-registered, non-motorized vehicles. And that covers riding bicycles under the influence. Right off I can recall news stories of a man being cited for driving a riding lawnmower in the street while drinking, and another news story of a man who was cited for pushing a motorcycle down the street (he had come from a bar and admitted he was too drunk to drive). Yeah - i've heard the lawm mower story but that's a motorized vehicle. You say cops CAN cite cyclists for DUI. But do they? I bet it's super-rare. Perhaps you should consider joining the force, so you can correct this oversight. Or perhaps the police department has something against hiring felons? -- We're all here because we're not all there. |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws. Wayne Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors. http://www.dwi.com/blog/north-caroli...a-dwi-bicycles http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/North-Carolina-Begins-Stricter-DWI-Laws/1$33748 Bo Raxo |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 27, 10:45 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: Pneuma Pelosi wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:54:15 -0000, Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 26, 9:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road too and if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if driving an SUV. Yes, they do. http://www.just****inggoogleit.com I had a neighbor get arrested for it years ago in California. He protested the arrest and charges, but the court would hear none of it. Why didn't he argue that the statute says "Driving While Intoxicated" or "Driving Under the Influence" and since Why don't you read the actual statute? Because reading the actual statute wouldn't be half as much fun as having a little fun with it. snip In Colorado, the DUI statute encompasses not only Cars and Trucks, but also Bicycles, Motor Boats, and Horses ... Yet it's called "DUI", which means that my argument is still valid. BTW, you drive a car, a truck and a boat, right? Do you drive a horse? The Amish should be allowed to get sloshed before going out and slowing traffic. Wait, you can "drive" horses when you are trying to corral them. The Amish wouldn't be allowed to do that while drunk under these rules. Yeah, and you ride a motorcycle instead of driving it. Try that semantic bull**** and you'll get laughed out of court. You've got a point, drunk motorcycle "drivers" have a way to get off other than refusing a breath test or claiming the cop doesn't like your race, colour, creed, religion or hair style. Ever wonder why the legal system has it's own dictionary, Black's Law - because words in a legal context have specific meanings different from their everyday use. You're operating a vehicle, and the vehicle can be defined as a boat or a horse or a bicycle. You don't like it, write your legislators. Then change the law to OUI. Isn't that French for "YES"? What prevents them from getting you for walking while intoxicated? Nothing, it's called "public intoxication". They got a law against everything now. How about crawling? Makes it easier to spot that you're drunk. But is it illegal? What about "being" while intoxicated? You can be arrested for being intoxicated in a bar. Wrap your tiny head around that concept. I think you need a drink. If "driving" can mean what you do on a bike, it could be expanded to what Martin Heidegger termed "Sein". I think a person charged with DUI should bring this up in court. The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public. Hence there are laws against being drunk in public. As for Heidegger, I'm old enough to have been forced to read "The Question Concerning Technology" in college and young enough to remember I couldn't stand that stupid facist. Funny guy to quote when you're making what is essentially a libertarian argument. He writes funny books. -- "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote: Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws. Wayne Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors. How about JATO powered skateboards? -- "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" |
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"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in message ... Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote: Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws. Wayne Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors. How about JATO powered skateboards? Nope. I'm willing to buy you the skateboard, the rocket, and the booze. And personally light the fuse. Wouldn't miss that for the world. Bo Raxo |
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The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You
don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public. The Constituion is a limiting document, meaning it limits the powers of the people. The rights are implied. So unless otherwise FORBIDDEN in the Constitution, I *DO* have a right to be intoxicated in public. |
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Larry Bud wrote: The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public. The Constituion is a limiting document, meaning it limits the powers of the people. The rights are implied. So unless otherwise FORBIDDEN in the Constitution, I *DO* have a right to be intoxicated in public. The constitution includes the Bill of Rights, you know. And I think you forget that the constitution isn't just the words explicitly written but also what is allowed as statutory law, etc. Congress is empowered to make the law. The states can make laws. There is administrative law, case law, and there is the underlying sea of the common law. Is there a common law right to public drunkenness? -- "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
Bo Raxo wrote: "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in message ... Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote: Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws. Wayne Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors. How about JATO powered skateboards? Nope. I'm willing to buy you the skateboard, the rocket, and the booze. And personally light the fuse. Wouldn't miss that for the world. It's not for me. -- "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" |
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Do bicyclists ever get arrested for drunk biking??
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:21:40 -0400, Wayne Pein
wrote: Bo Raxo wrote: On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote: Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws. Wayne Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors. http://www.dwi.com/blog/north-caroli...a-dwi-bicycles http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/North-Carolina-Begins-Stricter-DWI-Laws/1$33748 Well shiver me timbers! They are retards. Since bicycle users are not required to have a license, it'll be interesting to see what kind of penalty is imposed. Not needing a license doesn't preclude being fined. Wayne |
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