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Old August 27th 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road too and
if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if driving an SUV.


Hey loony toon, should drunk pedestrians get their drivers license taken
away too and get a dUI? They could seriously injure a baby sitting all
alone on the sidewalk
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Old August 28th 07, 12:07 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,rec.bicycles.misc
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
DougC wrote:
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road too
and if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if driving
an SUV.


Generally, in the US--a police officer can cite anyone for operating any
type of vehicle unsafely on public roadways, and that can and does
include non-registered, non-motorized vehicles. And that covers riding
bicycles under the influence.

Right off I can recall news stories of a man being cited for driving a
riding lawnmower in the street while drinking, and another news story of
a man who was cited for pushing a motorcycle down the street (he had
come from a bar and admitted he was too drunk to drive).


Yeah - i've heard the lawm mower story but that's a motorized vehicle.
You say cops CAN cite cyclists for DUI. But do they? I bet it's
super-rare.


Perhaps you should consider joining the force, so you can correct this
oversight.

Or perhaps the police department has something against hiring felons?


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Old August 28th 07, 12:30 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws.

Wayne


Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North
Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors.

http://www.dwi.com/blog/north-caroli...a-dwi-bicycles

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/North-Carolina-Begins-Stricter-DWI-Laws/1$33748


Bo Raxo


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Old August 28th 07, 02:35 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 27, 10:45 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
wrote:
"_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:





Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:
Pneuma Pelosi wrote:


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:54:15 -0000, Bo Raxo
wrote:


On Aug 26, 9:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
wrote:
I never heard of it, but they ought to be. They're on the road
too and if drunk, pose a menace to others though not as big as if
driving an SUV.


Yes, they do. http://www.just****inggoogleit.com


I had a neighbor get arrested for it years ago in California. He
protested the arrest and charges, but the court would hear none of
it.


Why didn't he argue that the statute says "Driving While Intoxicated"
or "Driving Under the Influence" and since


Why don't you read the actual statute?


Because reading the actual statute wouldn't be half as much fun as
having a little fun with it.

snip


In Colorado, the DUI statute encompasses not only Cars and Trucks, but also
Bicycles, Motor Boats, and Horses ...


Yet it's called "DUI", which means that my argument is still valid. BTW,
you drive a car, a truck and a boat, right? Do you drive a horse? The
Amish should be allowed to get sloshed before going out and slowing
traffic. Wait, you can "drive" horses when you are trying to corral
them. The Amish wouldn't be allowed to do that while drunk under these
rules.


Yeah, and you ride a motorcycle instead of driving it. Try that
semantic bull**** and you'll get laughed out of court.

You've got a point, drunk motorcycle "drivers" have a way to get off
other than refusing a breath test or claiming the cop doesn't like your
race, colour, creed, religion or hair style.


Ever wonder
why the legal system has it's own dictionary, Black's Law - because
words in a legal context have specific meanings different from their
everyday use. You're operating a vehicle, and the vehicle can be
defined as a boat or a horse or a bicycle. You don't like it, write
your legislators.

Then change the law to OUI. Isn't that French for "YES"?



What prevents them from getting you for walking while intoxicated?


Nothing, it's called "public intoxication".

They got a law against everything now.



How
about crawling?


Makes it easier to spot that you're drunk.

But is it illegal?



What about "being" while intoxicated?


You can be arrested for being intoxicated in a bar. Wrap your tiny
head around that concept.

I think you need a drink.



If "driving" can
mean what you do on a bike, it could be expanded to what Martin
Heidegger termed "Sein". I think a person charged with DUI should bring
this up in court.


The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You
don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public. Hence
there are laws against being drunk in public.

As for Heidegger, I'm old enough to have been forced to read "The
Question Concerning Technology" in college and young enough to
remember I couldn't stand that stupid facist. Funny guy to quote when
you're making what is essentially a libertarian argument.

He writes funny books.




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Old August 28th 07, 02:36 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws.

Wayne


Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North
Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors.

How about JATO powered skateboards?

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Old August 28th 07, 06:13 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in message
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Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws.

Wayne


Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North
Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors.

How about JATO powered skateboards?


Nope. I'm willing to buy you the skateboard, the rocket, and the booze.
And personally light the fuse. Wouldn't miss that for the world.


Bo Raxo



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Old August 28th 07, 01:01 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You
don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public.


The Constituion is a limiting document, meaning it limits the powers
of the people. The rights are implied. So unless otherwise FORBIDDEN
in the Constitution, I *DO* have a right to be intoxicated in
public.


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Old August 28th 07, 05:19 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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Larry Bud wrote:

The law can be written to encompass whatever is constitutional. You
don't have a constitutional right to be intoxicated in public.


The Constituion is a limiting document, meaning it limits the powers
of the people. The rights are implied. So unless otherwise FORBIDDEN
in the Constitution, I *DO* have a right to be intoxicated in
public.

The constitution includes the Bill of Rights, you know. And I think you
forget that the constitution isn't just the words explicitly written but
also what is allowed as statutory law, etc. Congress is empowered to
make the law. The states can make laws. There is administrative law,
case law, and there is the underlying sea of the common law. Is there a
common law right to public drunkenness?



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Old August 28th 07, 05:20 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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Bo Raxo wrote:

"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in message
...


Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws.

Wayne

Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North
Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors.

How about JATO powered skateboards?


Nope. I'm willing to buy you the skateboard, the rocket, and the booze.
And personally light the fuse. Wouldn't miss that for the world.

It's not for me.




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Old August 28th 07, 06:55 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,rec.bicycles.misc
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:21:40 -0400, Wayne Pein
wrote:

Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 27, 3:19 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:

Sensibly, in NC bicycle drivers are exempt from impaired driving laws.

Wayne



Wrong. The law was changed last year. The DUI statute in North
Carolina now covers bicycles, riding mowers, and tractors.

http://www.dwi.com/blog/north-caroli...a-dwi-bicycles

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/North-Carolina-Begins-Stricter-DWI-Laws/1$33748


Well shiver me timbers! They are retards.

Since bicycle users are not required to have a license, it'll be
interesting to see what kind of penalty is imposed.


Not needing a license doesn't preclude being fined.


Wayne

 




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